OT: These Regular Guys Challenged An NBA Player And Instantly Regretted It (Jordan Poole sighting)

Submitted by dickdastardly on April 14th, 2021 at 7:31 AM

I was watching this and low and behold, there's Jordan Poole (still in HS but noted as a top recruit).

It's a very interesting take on just how good bad NBA players are vs us regular joes and good non NBA players.

 

Westside Wolverine

April 14th, 2021 at 8:09 AM ^

That was great. My varsity coach was a former D-1 player and even in his 40s he would torch all of us. I learned real quick how wide the gap was between good high school players and college players. The gap between good high school and NBA is unfathomable. 

ypsituckyboy

April 14th, 2021 at 8:23 AM ^

I've played pick up against some D1 players, and the athleticism gap is obviously there. But the even bigger gap is how good they are at shooting. Guys may shoot 35% from 3 against other D1 players, but let them play pick up ball and it feels like they never miss. They're not bothered by normal people defense and absolutely torch you.

Champeen

April 14th, 2021 at 9:00 AM ^

Very true.  I watched Eric Devendorf pre game against Saginaw Arthur Hill warm up, and i was in awe.  He kept moving around the 3 point line and was, i shit you not, about 45 for 50 ish. He literally never missed when warming up.  But during a game with someone guarding you and your adrenaline pumping, it is much different.

Piston Blue

April 14th, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^

During the polar vortex of early 2019, classes had been cancelled for the next day and I think UM was playing OSU that night. The AD let students into the building 2.5 hours early to avoid having people line up outside, so my buddies and I got to watch warmups and Livers did about the same thing. I always thought of myself as a good shooter (if you give me 5 shots from each main spot on the 3line I typically go ~12-15/25) and it just made me realize that these guys are in completely different stratospheres.

BlueInVA95

April 14th, 2021 at 9:41 AM ^

Not to mention how good they are on defense. So agile, and with quick hands. I remember in HS we were taught on defense to not swipe at the ball all the time so we didn't pick up cheap fouls. But playing pickup with even some DII guys, and watching DI and above, it's amazing how good they are at reaching in, stripping the ball, picking your pocket, etc.

Michigan4Life

April 14th, 2021 at 2:08 PM ^

I've seen a couple of youtube videos of average joes challenging Brian Scailbrine aka the White Mamba. He torched them all without breaking a sweat. Often winning 11-0 in most games. He may be one of the worst player in the league in his career but he is absolutely 10000x better than every non NBA players.

 

mgoaggie

April 14th, 2021 at 11:32 AM ^

I know this thread is turning into a bunch of "I played against", but I just have to say - In my late-20's, what I'd consider my peak of basketball fitness, I was at a gym in northern Utah and Sam Merrill walked in. He was an incoming freshman at Utah State, now he plays (limited minutes, he's a rookie) for the Bucks. At 17, before he even hit campus, dude absolutely cooked everyone who we thought was actually decent at the game. He scored every point for like 3 straight games, and didn't even look like he was trying. I never even tried to guard him, luckily.

Michigan4Life

April 14th, 2021 at 2:06 PM ^

I played pickup basketball games against former D1 players and some were former starters at P5 school. It's comical at how easy they can dominate the game if they wanted to but chose to take it easy until they need a bucket.

I also played with professional players and they played overseas. They're so much better than everyone else, it's ridiculous.

The gap between NBA and oversea pros are huge. Same with NBA and D1 players. People don't realize at the speed of the game, how athletic they are in a freakishly long bodies that they can't keep up.

Rabbit21

April 14th, 2021 at 8:24 AM ^

When I was at the Air Force Academy one of Notre Dames big time basketball players, Pat(some last name I can’t remember and don’t want to look up), was from the Springs area and was at the Academy gym working out.  My friends and I were playing ball and we asked him if he wanted to join us.  He laughed, said sure, and put on a clinic. This being the academy we were used to playing with D1 athletes(the soccer players were always coveted team-mates when we were down at the gym) but playing with him was eye opening.

We thought we were being nice as he was just hanging by himself shooting buckets, I think it turned out more to be he didn’t want to embarrass us.  Agree with the above poster about the shooting being the craziest part, I don’t think he missed a shot.  Needless to say his team got to 11 pretty quickly.  

bronxblue

April 14th, 2021 at 8:36 AM ^

Saw this video as well a couple days ago.  It makes sense how good these guys are compared to mere mortals.  I still remember seeing a deep bench guy/walk on on a Carr team play IM football against a bunch of guys who played in HS and just absolutely smoking everyone.  

In Poole's slight defense, he really was a baby in this game.  I'm not surprised he struggled against two guys with developmental years on him.

blueheron

April 14th, 2021 at 9:19 AM ^

Indeed. Making a D1 football / basketball team as a walk-on is a pretty big deal.

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This reminds me of an annoying trend: People describing themselves as "college athletes" on social media. Bragging is cultural in the USA, true, but this type seems to be getting worse. Dig deeper and you discover that a lot of them played something like ultimate frisbee at a tiny private school. *I* could have done that. :)

kehnonymous

April 14th, 2021 at 9:00 AM ^

Again that's why it's insane to say that they don't play defense in the NBA.  The skill level is that high that they look that they're scoring without much opposition.  The fact that they can sometimes make, a generic rotation player, to say nothing of James Harden, miss a shot is testament to the fact that they do play defense.  If you see, say, a contender like the Sixers wax a scrub team like the T'Wolves by 35, that's basically like the world's 99.995th-percentile basketball team over a 99.902nd-percentile team

RAH

April 14th, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^

There used to be an annual game between the NFL champions and a college all-star team. (Yes, I'm old and I remember it.)  When it started in the 30's (No, I don't remember the 39s!!!) It was a real game and a major event. The college guys won frequently because the best college players/graduates often didn't play in the pros - they could make more money in their professions - and the pros often worked other jobs on the side or in the off-season But as time went on it became more and more one-sided and was finally discontinued. But it did last into the 70s. 

saveferris

April 14th, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^

I always smirk at those media claims; how ridiculous they are.  There are roughly 10,000 players on scholarship at FBS programs.  Of those 10,000 players, maybe 3% will make it into the NFL in any given season.  The best college football team would have no chance against a squad of seasoned professionals, I don't care how bad they were in the NFL.  Its just math. 

Michfan777

April 14th, 2021 at 9:10 AM ^

Back around 2012-2014ish, I used to play pick up games at the basketball court in a golds gym near Austin.

Former UT player AJ Abrams (he still might be the Big12’s leading 3 point shooter) would be there at least once or twice a week to play and when he played, he’d just torch you from deep. Nobody could guard him. Even when he drove the ball he was like a blur. But that shooting skill was insane.

The skill and athleticism gap is massive between normal humans who are good at basketball and even marginal players at the pro level. 

canzior

April 14th, 2021 at 9:19 AM ^

One of my old pastors was a mid-major all conference POY as a Sophomore. He was a 2nd round pick in 85, signed with Jordan's Bulls but went into preaching instead.  I played against him about 6 years ago, so he was definitely in his 50s and I was early 30's.  He had 4 inches on me and probably 75 pounds but it didn't matter, I think he only scored like 3 baskets in the paint.  He hit almost everything he shot. 

I've also played flag football for about 17 years in Richmond, VA & DC.  I have played against numerous D1 guys and maybe 10-12 former pros. Antwaan Randle-El is fast as shit. He played QB and was running all over the field. He also had a friend with him who was barely a practice squad player.  He didn't have elite speed, but he caught EVERYTHING. 

Another guy I played against a number of times was named Brian Still, for VT WR, played for the Chargers & Falcons for I think 7 years. He wasn't super fast, at age 40 but he ran the crispest routes I'd ever seen, and he would break so cleanly and create separation so effortlessly he made it look easy. And he would accelerate after he had the ball in his hands and there was no catching him.   Everyone would get hyped to cover him because of who he was...guys at the field early, stretching, and talking about shutting him down. It was laughable watching guys who were top notch athletes...guys who "could've been D1 had he not been a knucklehead" types...definitely faster and more athletic than Still, and he would make them look stupid. 

 

Edit to add:

I almost forgot.  Right after Russell Wilson's year at Wisconsin he was home in Richmond and he pulled up to the field to play.  It wasn't my regular team, I was filling in for a team short on players.  The game before us was a bunch of guys Russell went to high school with. All nerdy looking guys, very little athleticism, the guys you know were out there to spend time with their friends, not to truly be competitive. Russell pulled up in a Mercedes truck...he was shorter than me..."and I'm 6'2 in the program" tall, 6 flat in real life. He came out casually and slung the fucking ball all over the field. Before he showed up, I was going to offer to play with them since they were one short and I wish I had.  Once they started losing he got really competitive and was throwing 35 yard darts into windows that weren't even really there.  As bad as his friends were at football, every pass hit them in the hands and chest..long, short, deep outs, ins, posts...all were absolutely dead on.  It was certainly eye opening and a disappointment playing with a regular guy immediately after that.  At the time I thought it was cool, but didn't think much of it because his draft buzz was not great.  Many said he wasn't an NFL QB, he was inaccurate etc etc and for him to be selected in R3 was surprising, and even more so after he became who he is now.

hfhmilkman

April 14th, 2021 at 9:33 AM ^

My favorite story is we were playing at the park and Gary Grant fresh off his rookie contract drove up in his new car with Sean Higgins and Anton Joubert in tow.  They split up the players.  We were stuck with Sean Higgins and lost because he would only take 40 foot shots.  Joubert could not hit a shot outside the paint to save his life.  But Gary Grant was a sight to behold.  Even when not taking anything seriously he was like a comic book superhero and we were nothing.

My friend was taking the ball up the court and crossed over on Gary Grant.  He being a mere mortal had time to be proud that he just crossed over on Gary Grant.  I witnessed what happened next in gory detail.  Gary Grant surveyed the scene.  Watched my friend cross and pass him plus read my friends entire life story.  Then Gary Grant idly reached over my friends shoulder and plucked the ball away as if were some toy from an infant.  The filch was so blurringly fast, I could barely comprehend what happened.  My friend continued up the court unaware that he no longer had the rock and Gary Grant had already scored again in some leisurely obscene way.

 

EastCoast Esq.

April 14th, 2021 at 10:00 AM ^

I'm a far, far below average pick-up player.

I might have a chance against an NBA player if they were forced to play on their knees with one-hand behind their back and blind-folded. Maybe. I'd probably score a point.

25dodgebros

April 14th, 2021 at 10:05 AM ^

Football too.  In the last century I played grad IM football against Tom Slade who was in dental school after being Michigan's quarterback in 1971 and backup to Dennis Franklin in 1972 and 1973.  Slade was not a particularly good passing quarterback for D1 but in IM he looked like a super charged Tom Brady.  I played corner and it was like the balls were being dropped from the sky by God.  I had no chance.  Slade went on to be a dentist in Ann Arbor with the side job of doing color commentary for UM football games on WUOM.  Tom Hemingway did the play by play.  It was a glorious way to listen to UM football.  100X better than what happens today on  the IMG whatever.  

Roy G. Biv

April 14th, 2021 at 10:20 AM ^

I had the good fortune of playing basketball in Flint with several college, international, and even a few NBA level guys at the end of the 80s/early 90s (also a couple of NFL guys as well, and a guy I watched on TV pitching for the Yankees in the World Series).  Of course we didn't see their best in pick-up ball, but whenever they decided it was time to score or get a stop, that's what happened.  They played the game on an entirely higher plane.

Durham Blue

April 14th, 2021 at 10:39 AM ^

My friend was playing pick up basketball in the gym at Oakland University in the late 1980's.  He was about 6'3" and a good high school player but never played in college.  One day, in walks Vinnie Johnson of the Pistons who wanted to join the pick up game.  I think Vinnie was also 6'3" so at least my friend matched him in height.  Well long story short, Vinnie completely demolished everyone on the court.  During the course of the action my friend got wide open in the paint and went up for what should have been an easy layup and Vinnie came out of nowhere and blocked his shot.  He actually palmed the ball on the block and immediately went the other way with it.  My friend ended up on the gym floor from the force of the block.

My own personal story is playing pick up roller hockey at a parking lot around Elbel Field with Warren Luhning and Jason Botterill.  It didn't go well for me and the other guys challenging them.

Elmer

April 14th, 2021 at 11:39 AM ^

My brother in law was a former NBA player, drafted #32 overall in1970's.  When boxing me out, all he had to do was reach out one arm and I was frozen.  The strength of a guy who's 6'7 and solidly built was eye opening.

Like other people have noted, he could hit mid- range open shots all day along.  Actually, he didn't need to be open.  I'm only 6'2, so he just shot over the top of me.

saveferris

April 14th, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^

It's not just D1 men players either.  When I was a freshman at Michigan, I briefly dated a girl who was a starter on the basketball team.  Dated her just long enough to play her one-on-one on the playground for kicks.  She housed me.

My wife was a former D3 basketball player as well, and it's all I can do to compete with her when we shoot around in the driveway.  She doesn't miss much and has a quick first step, so guarding her is a challenge.

I've had numerous arguments with male coworkers that I play rec ball with about how good women ballplayers are with these macho weekend warriors insisting that no woman could compete with them regardless of their skill level based simply on the fact that men are stronger than women.  I just roll my eyes and tell them how clueless they are.

The gap isn't just real between College / Pro male players and the rest of us.  It exists just as tangibly between elite women players and the rest of us.  Believe it.

Frank Chuck

April 14th, 2021 at 12:43 PM ^

lol, yep

I graduated from a St. Louis HS that has produced Ryan Howard (NL MVP, WS Champion) and David Freese (2011 WS MVP).

One year we had a team with a higher number of D1 talents going to college baseball. And we were getting a little cocky one spring training. So our manager had the #2 ace on the softball team (which was pretty damn good in the state) pitch against us. It didn't go well for the baseball team in batting practice.

saveferris

April 14th, 2021 at 2:35 PM ^

Our HS girls softball team was state champions in our senior year.  The team ace actually set a national HS record for strikeouts recorded (a record I imagine that has since been beaten).  She wound up getting a scholarship at some compass school in Florida.  Anyway, one day after school some of the guys were on the diamond with the girls and we asked to take some batting practice, just for kicks.  I got in the box with this girl and she whistled a fast ball right by my ear, told myself "nope" and immediately left the batters box.

Doan22

April 14th, 2021 at 12:41 PM ^

New sport, same result. I skied competitively in HS/College through USSA. Your skill level is reflected by a point system like a golf hcp.  Olympic skiers are around 0 points, but you’re pretty good if you have around 80 points (sorry for the preamble).  Every year USSA holds the Lutsen Spring Series which is a party for the Olympic skiers and a good opportunity for mortals to improve their points.

 

Regardless, these Olympic athletes are just built differently.  Tree trunks for legs and just solid.  None are trying (it is kind of the pull for younger racers to improve their points), but they’re still beating everyone by like 10 seconds on a 50 second course, which is more than a mile. Crazy to not just be in awe of what they can do.

 

very cool race, most the pros sell their old race gear very cheap and are genuinely nice people and happy to race for the younger generation. 34 now but some of the pros that would go are Chip Knight, Shiffrin, Mancuso, Schlepper among others.

 

 

Mgostats

April 14th, 2021 at 12:52 PM ^

I attended law school at the University of Houston at the very beginning of Akeem Olajuwon's basketball career.  He arrived on campus with minimal knowledge of the game (though he was still a freakish athlete -- IIRC, he had been a fine soccer player).  He learned the basics at the IM building, with the team's student managers providing guidance.  In order to fill out squads for pickup games, the managers would recruit whomever happened to be around at the time....such as law students who were looking for excuses not to study!!

It took some time for Olajuwon to learn the nuances of goaltending.  And so it was that I scored on a future NBA Hall of Famer...more than once....as he gleefully stuck his arms through the basket and swatted away my jump shots, and the student managers frantically tried to explain that it was against the rules for him to do so.  By far, the highlight of my three years at UH (even eclipsing graduation)!