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December 7th, 2020 at 9:44 PM ^
Yes, I did. He has a short shelf life as was established before he was hired at UM. I thought 4-5 years and he'd either go back to NFL due to success or the fans would be hoping he'd go back for other reasons. I was hoping it would be the former.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^
It is the defense... the last two OSU games we get blown out, and against Wisconsin too.... it is hard to watch getting run on so easily over and over, going against 40 years of Bo/Mo/Lloyd that always was solid against run. Instead, vs any decent team, we fall behind immediately.
If we had a defense of old, I think the offense would be an annoying point in spots, but I don't think we'd be begging him to go to NFL here.
It is the defense that is the pain that is causing this all.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:49 PM ^
Have we actually skimped on paying assistants? Seems like they are already making some big $$$.
Do we have the assistants we have because we did not have enough $? Or it it more like bad hires / bad fits?
December 7th, 2020 at 8:55 PM ^
Not during Harbaughs years have we ever skimped on paying assistants. Brown makes like 1.3 mill. Gattis makes a mill despite never leading an offense anywhere. We paid Pep fucking Hamilton a million and that dude could only get a job in the XFL
December 7th, 2020 at 10:30 PM ^
Wasn't Mattison getting like $1MM as well?
December 7th, 2020 at 8:56 PM ^
Compares to the top teams, our assistant salaries are lower. I think Clemson's and Alabama's assistant pool of money is almost double ours. OSU, Georgia ect probably about 25-35% higher.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:10 PM ^
According to USA Today our salary pool is $6,005,000. Four programs have $7,000,000+ budgets (Alabama, Clemson, OSU, and Texas A&M). Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee also have more of a budget than us. However, this is all based off of last years numbers. I believe the driving force behind the raise in assistant money is MSU coughing up an assistant pool of around $6 million this year when Mel Tucker was brought in.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^
I believe we have 3 coaches that make over $500k per year, those being Don Brown, Josh Gattis and Ed Warriner. Clemson has 9 assistants making over $500,000. Their sole assistant not making over $500,000 is their recently promoted analysis who is now their WR coach. He's making $300,000. Their defensive coordinator makes more than Don Brown and Josh Gattis combined. Their offensive coordinator makes $700k more than Gattis.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:40 PM ^
"I believe we have 3 coaches that make over $500k per year, those being Don Brown, Josh Gattis and Ed Warriner."
Aside from Warriner, they are all overpaid based on results.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:59 AM ^
Aside from Warriner, they are all overpaid based on results.
You have to strike a balance between on field results and recruiting. We should have kept Wheatley, Partridge, & MGatt. But, Moore and JayB are good recruiters and have developed good players at their respective positions. They should be retained. I know people give JH shit for nepotism, but I think JayB has done well. Moore is one the top recruiters as an assistant. We all like Warriner. Brown, Nua, & McDaniels are in the crosshairs. The new guys are still a bit questionable, particularly the Shoop situation. He has a good pedigree as a coach, not necessarily a recruiter, but his absence will remain a question until answered. Zordich has also been a good coach, but not a great recruiter. This years DBs give pause, but I think his track record probably proves himself enough to stick around. My best guess is the new guys situation has to be figured out. They may be one and done. Brown is right in the crosshairs and Nua and McDaniels are not far away.
December 7th, 2020 at 11:16 PM ^
I'd be happy to see anyone get paid more who can come in and recruit and kick up the on-field performance. I just wonder how lucrative a high salary is for a coach to work under Harbaugh. Maybe we'll see more McElwains, failed HCs who come here for a year or two to raise their stock and move on. I can live with that as long as they can contribute more than McElwain apparently did...
December 7th, 2020 at 9:03 PM ^
Seems like they are all grossly overpaid. Oh and the garbage emphasis on incentives? What, like beating OSU once a decade? He’s already underperformed, winning big games should just be part of his base salary at this point. What a spineless play from M athletic department. Oh and Bacon subtlety kissing Harbaughs ass at the end was a nice touch as well.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^
My question exactly. We already have highly paid assistants. Not sure how many top-tier assistants will come aboard knowing that a) Harbaugh will remain on the hot seat, b) churns through assistants, and c) is evidently not exactly fun to work for.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^
How is this any different than previous years? Pep freaking Hamilton was the highest paid assistant in the Big Ten.
Then to replace Pep he hires a guy who's never called a play before over the phone.
What top assistant is coming here to work with him?
If he would be taking a paycut just hire a new freaking coach.
December 7th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
Whining. Get a life. Go somewhere else. You will be happier. You have 4+ complaints in every thread without one useful suggestion. There needs to be a mute button/ ignore feature for posters like you.
December 8th, 2020 at 12:15 AM ^
I'm pretty sure there is already a solution for that my man. It's called scroll past my comments.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:47 PM ^
Agreed, but please not the Lions. I don't want to see Matty D's hall of fame career ruined.
December 7th, 2020 at 11:20 PM ^
Don’t they already have on of the highest paid staffs though? Unless they are going to offer Venables $3-4mil to come be DC I’m not sure what could change as long as Harbaugh is running the show.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:21 PM ^
+1 for creative bacon emoji use
December 7th, 2020 at 8:33 PM ^
I thought those were chili peppers, like “hot news.” Also, I need glasses.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:51 PM ^
I need glasses too apparently. None of those looked like Flea or Anthony Kiedis with a sock on.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^
I swear one of ‘em does.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:23 PM ^
No flight aware?
December 7th, 2020 at 8:30 PM ^
Do we need flight aware to go from AA Muni to DTW?
Why not layover at Willow Run?
December 7th, 2020 at 8:32 PM ^
All incoming Columbus flights are recommended to layover in Anchorage, AK
December 7th, 2020 at 8:34 PM ^
Assuming Buckeyes are happy with this news?
December 7th, 2020 at 8:45 PM ^
Doesn't matter who coaches Michigan. JH stays, JH leaves, makes no difference. Is Michigan going to bring in anybody who will prevent OSU from winning The Game in the next couple years?
Would love to see Michigan be "back." It's so much better to beat a good Michigan team than beat a bad Michigan team. But it's OSU's mantra to beat Michigan regardless of who is their coach.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:51 PM ^
Someday you're gonna go down...you've had a good run but every dog has it's day and your day has been deserved for a long time.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^
Too bad it's going to be Indiana that does it.
*sigh*
December 7th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
O'Doyle, I've got a feeling your whole family's going down.
December 7th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
O'Doyle, I've got a feeling your whole family's going down.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:55 PM ^
Psuedo empathy alert!
Gotta love the Buckeye trolls who post, "Really want you guys to get better so, you know, our self esteem would be enhanced when we beat you then, too"
With the team and program you have, why hang around a bunch of self loathing, self immolating Michigan fans? It really says something about you.
P.S. I tried to limit the number of M's used so as not to trigger you.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:03 PM ^
I have the utmost respect for the greatest rivalry in the history of North American sports. I've always been interested in what Michigan does.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:06 PM ^
It’s no longer that. Not even close to that.
Michigan has to start to winning these games in order for it regain it’s importance.
December 7th, 2020 at 11:03 PM ^
It won't ever regain its importance because college football rivalries don't matter much anymore in general. The playoff and conference title games have seen to that.
December 7th, 2020 at 11:20 PM ^
But the M-OSU game does matter, at least when M is good. M has to beat OSU to play for a B1G championship. Hopefully someday the reverse will also be true.
December 7th, 2020 at 9:24 PM ^
Going to defend a Buckeye fan alert!
If you look at his history he a good guy who has contributed on here. In fact he is not the only Buckeye fan on here like that. I don't think a troll can last as long has he has.
Now excuse me I have to vomit
December 8th, 2020 at 8:07 AM ^
in b-chuck's defense, he has never been a troll. he is the opposing fan, like officer rabbit or nittany, that we should and generally do welcome to the board. unless i totally miss my mark, he's the guy who would get an invite to the tailgate at the big house on game day and though he'd wear red, he wouldn't be a jerk and would throw in for the beer and food without even being asked.
December 8th, 2020 at 10:46 AM ^
I stand corrected. Apologies to Buckeye Chuck.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:45 AM ^
Thanks Xtra, you tha man!
I was at MGoTailgate 2017. Talked with Seth for a while. But I don't think Brian would give me the time of day, other than he was eyeballing me as some nefarious intruder. lol
EDIT: ...and congrats on your son's recent decision! What an exciting experience!
December 7th, 2020 at 9:11 PM ^
*Xichigan. Come on Chuck!
How many wins would you need to see to think that Michigan has OSUs number? A Michigan win and we would go nuts but OSU fans just think just take pity on us and enjoy the next few years.
The Game has not been anything of a rivalry since the '80 with a 6-4 Michigan advantage.
The 90s OSU had Cooper
The 00s/10s with, well, them
December 7th, 2020 at 10:22 PM ^
You’re a fake account because you’re not spelling it *ichigan during Game Week.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:23 PM ^
This is going to be a long week
December 7th, 2020 at 8:23 PM ^
So does this new proposal allow Harbaugh to be hired without the buyout clause being triggered in his current contract? Based on the five team number I'm going to say it...
DETROIT IS IN PLAY!
December 7th, 2020 at 9:18 PM ^
The low buyout move is a complete and utter joke. All this does is help Harbaugh. Anyone remember when Belein got this deal? He left us high and dry. Sure we were very fortunate an up and comer “Michigan man” was available in Howard. This buyout can allow Harbaugh to bolt after the NFL season in February with no potential options left for a coaching search leaving us in the worst position ever. If you want him to leave, fire him!
December 7th, 2020 at 9:37 PM ^
If he wants to bolt in Feb, then let him go.
December 7th, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^
I ain’t stopping him. I’m just saying from an AD point of view, starting a coaching search in February isn’t going to go well.
December 7th, 2020 at 8:23 PM ^
Smart play is to make an offer JH can only refuse
December 7th, 2020 at 8:25 PM ^
If yes, that’s not this. He will bet on himself all day, every day.