Hope you like Junior Colson hype [Patrick Barron]

Fall Football Bits Has Defensive Updates Comment Count

Alex.Drain August 15th, 2022 at 1:23 PM

Late last week was the first Fall Football Bits of the 2022 season, which centered on offense. The rationale was a lack of information about the defense, but with another week of practice in the book- and a Big House scrimmage taking place on Saturday- we now have enough information to check in on the defense. 

 

Defensive Tackle 

What we want to hear: Mazi Smith is primed for superstardom, Kris Jenkins is going to be the same player we saw against Iowa and Georgia, the young guys are coming and this position is the deepest it's been since 2016.  

What we're hearing: There's definitely no shortage of Mazi Smith hype. He appears to be a primary leader of the defense off the field and hype bubbled to a fever pitch after he was ranked #1 in Bruce Feldmans' annual "freaks" list over at The Athletic ($). Different insiders have used words like "tank" and "going to dominate" to describe Smith. Kris Jenkins has gotten comparatively little hype from the insiders, other than to say things like "he and Smith play well together". Harbaugh did give a shoutout to Jenkins on the Jansen pod, saying "very, very, very strong, fast, and quick and he’s improved a ton". 

While references to UCF transfer Cam Goode have been scant, the young'uns are seeing their names start to circulate, both the redshirt freshmen who now have a chance to see the field and the true freshmen who the staff looooooove. Among the second year guys, Rayshaun Benny has gotten the most buzz, appearing in a Josh Henschke update this weekend ($), and it sounds like he is on the two deep and poised to rotate in this season. George Rooks has not been mentioned as much, other than that he is in the mix to get playing time. 

It is undeniable how highly the staff thinks of Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant, both true freshmen. Both were named to us by one insider as two true freshmen who are guaranteed to play all year long, while a Balas update from the scrimmage noted that both guys rotated in on Saturday with regularity ($). Grant also showed up on the Feldman freaks list at #46 and most have now acknowledged that the Harbaugh quote about one freshman being a "gift from the football gods" was in reference to Grant. 

What it means: Smith and Jenkins are your starters. I don't really think there's anything wrong with the relative lack of Jenkins hype. This is a position like RB where we know who the starters are; Mazi gets hype because he's a team leader and they want to push his All-B1G case early, whereas Jenkins is penciled in as a ho-hum starter like Donovan Edwards. Benny and Goode are probably next up on the depth chart, with Rooks/Graham/Grant farther down but all seeing the field at some point. Freshman DTs Suck is still a general rule, so temper exectations in year #1, but the constant hype surrounding Graham/Grant is a pretty damn optimistic indicator for their long-term future/upside. 

[AFTER THE JUMP: Hype for a certain LB]

 

[Bryan Fuller]

Defensive End 

What we want to hear: Mike Morris is going to bust out in a big way, Jaylen Harrell has figured out how to rush the passer, Taylor Upshaw appears ready to stick in a larger role, and the young lotto tickets are going to play bit roles. 

What we're hearing: The news on Mike Morris is mostly good. He appears to be a leader of the defense at this juncture and was made available to the media last week on behalf of the defense. One report singled him out as one of the players having among the strongest performances in camp ($) on the whole defense, so it would appear he has one EDGE job locked up. The other is much more unsettled and the buzz here hasn't been uniformly great. 

While there was the Harbaugh quote about the EDGE pressure being better than last year, 1.) that is an insane thing to say or believe and 2.) there are no rumors that back that up. If anything, it would appear to be the biggest weak spot on the defense right now, understandable after losing two high-level NFL talents. Taylor UpshawJaylen Harrell, and Braiden McGregor all rotated in at EDGE during the scrimmage ($) and one source indicated to us that the position had a very bumpy performance on Saturday, which is requiring direct attention from Jesse Minter. Harrell did get the milquetoast "the staff has high hopes for him" quote in one report a week ago ($), while buzz on Upshaw/McGregor has been pretty non-existent. 

There have been some murmurs about younger contributors that may get to factor in. Another name in the rotation on Saturday was true freshman Derrick Moore. He was another name who made our source's list of first year guys likely to play all year and the reviews of the early enrollee are very positive, as they were in the spring. The more surprising name has only shown up in Josh Henschke's reporting, so it's hard to buy into until we hear more buzz... but, TJ Guy ($). Not a ton being said overall but there is reason to be intrigued that he could be in the rotation.  

What it means: This position is going to be considered the Achilles heel until it isn't. I buy that Morris is a solid player but the lack of another edge is a bit concerning. I think the hope right now is that they come up with different packages that work for different players and an effective mix of playcalls that work to each player's strength ends up in a decent rotation. I was reminded going through my notes from last year that the buzz in camp on the defensive line (especially DT) was very negative and then that mostly turned out to be not true (in a good way)? It could just be possible that Michigan's DL looks worse in practice because they are going up against the literal best OL in college football. 

Anyway the depth chart is the following: Morris is your starter at one spot, and then a hodgepodge of Moore/Upshaw/Harrell/McGregor holds down the other spot, with TJ Guy somewhere. 

 

Linebacker

What we want to hear: Junior Colson knows which way he's running this year, NHG has taken another step forward, Michael Barrett is ready for a Jordan Glasgow-like fifth year explosion, Joey Velazquez's massive biceps have him ready to tackle everyone he sees, and even Jaydon Hood is impressing. 

What we're hearing: I'm not sure anyone on the team is getting as much hype as Junior Colson is. After a true freshman season that provided plenty of reasons for optimism but also many (understandable) mistakes, the coaching staff wants everyone to know that he's made The Leap. Nearly every update from every insider comes with a "that Junior Colson guy is really good" line, and the term "All-American" is being thrown around in a rather cavalier manner. Phrases "beast", "seasoned veteran", and "outstanding" are not unusual in reports. 

The other starting spot appears to be held by Nikhai Hill-Green, but Michael Barrett doesn't seem too far behind. Balas confirmed that NHG was the other starter at the scrimmage on Saturday but a separate source informed us that Hill-Green tweaked something during the scrimmage. A number of players are dealing with minor, "soft tissue" issues ($). Barrett continues to be mentioned as a guy who is close to the starters, but the fact that Harbaugh quickly described Barrett as a "great special teams player" on Jansen's podcast makes me believe that he still will likely have a larger role there than on defense. We have heard good things about Barrett's offseason conditioning and muscular physique entering fall camp, though ($).  

As for the true reserves, discussion has been pretty sparse. Kalel Mullings is still practicing on defense in addition to his RB duties. Have to think this is the result of the depth at LB being pretty sparse. No real discussion of Jaydon Hood and Joey Velazquez besides one line that the team is hoping for one of the two to step up ($). That is a mention, but it is not hype. 

What it means: I think I'm buying the Junior Colson hopium right now. He was not particularly great last year, but no true freshman playing LB is going to be. The freakish athleticism is there and now with another year in the system to learn, I am buying the idea of a leap to All-B1G caliber. All-American level may be a bit high but I think he could be really, really good and that this hype isn't the ole Donovan Jeter 2019 bluster. NHG is your other starter and Barrett is next up after that. Beyond those three, it gets sparse, so please heal, NHG. This is probably the position on the team where Michigan can least afford a major injury. 

 

[Patrick Barron]

Cornerback 

What we want to hear: DJ Turner is going to continue his strong play from last season, Gemon Green has figured out how to play the ball when it arrives, Will Johnson is a bona fide stud, and Mike Sainristil is making the switch to defense look easy. 

What we're hearing: There hasn't been much DJ Turner discussion, but this one again feels like the Corum/Edwards bucket where we all know he's good and there's not much else to say. The team sent him to B1G Media Day which says about all you need to know in terms of what they think of him. Turner's athleticism has started to get more talk, though. Harbaugh left this surprising quote on the Jansen pod

DJ Turner, when he goes to run a 40, it could be sub-4.3. And Roman Wilson is right there with him. Those two run very, very similarly, close together.

Roman Wilson was toasting Ohio State's secondary in The Game; Turner running stride for stride is quite an accomplishment. That seemed a bit hokey until it turned out they had the evidence to back it up, as supplied to Feldman for the freaks piece. Turner was listed #31 on that piece with an official 4.28 40 (!), and a 6.29 3-cone time that would be very close to beating the all-time combine record of 6.28 (!!). 

On my spreadsheet of all the rumors I've collected, there's not a single mention of the name "Gemon Green" so far, which is a bit odd, but we haven't heard anything about injuries. Given that he was a starter in the spring, he is likely still a starter and there's not a ton to say. We do know he's alive because of this tweet from the team: 

Green will be a starter unless Will Johnson rips it away from him. Harbaugh described Johnson as "as good as advertised", while all the other insiders have said he will be a freshman who "plays all year". One insider was the first to proclaim Johnson a surefire starter "at some point" during the year on Saturday ($), while the others aren't quite there yet. Needless to say, though, you're going to see a whole lot of #2 on defense this year. 

Outside of those three, Mike Sainristil is continuing to get the buzz he got in spring ball. Balas described him as "no flash in the pan" at nickel ($) and Harbaugh said that Sainristil is practicing 80% with the defense. He is reported to be banged up right now as well, so there wasn't much news of him at the scrimmage, but seems like he is in the team's plans at corner this season in some capacity. 

There isn't much being said about any corners beyond that, as the other freshmen are just getting their feet wet. 

What it means: Turner is the #1 guy, Green is the placeholder starter and should be fine until Will Johnson is ready. The kid is coming on. Sainristil starts as the leader in the slot, but there is definitely a chance someone else is the nickel because [READ SAFETIES SECTION]. 

 

Safety

What we want to hear: RJ Moten and Rod Moore are back and ready to build on promising first years in the rotation, while Makari Paige is ready to jump in, and even some of the true freshmen may get to see the field because their abilities are so NCAA-ready.  

What we're hearing: If you're interested in Makari Paige buzz, I have some good news for you. Coaches and insiders want you to know that Paige is having a strong fall camp, on the heels of a good performance in the spring. After being passed by both Moten and Moore on the depth chart last year, Paige appears to be in the rotation for 2022. Rivals reported over the weekend that Paige has been running with the 1s ($) and that was confirmed with other reporting on the scrimmage rotation, on top of the earlier hype we've heard. 

RJ Moten and Rod Moore are the other two in what seems like a safety triumvirate at the moment. Moore, you may recall, was injured in the spring but Harbaugh confirmed on Jansen's pod that he's back to full health: 

Rod Moore, who didn’t play in the spring, had a surgery, but he’s back, flying around, doing Rod Moore stuff, and he’s leading, too — you ask where the leadership’s coming from, there’s a guy that you make an example to other players.

Not a ton being said about Moten, but chalk that one up to "steady starter doesn't need much buzz". Quentin Johnson would appear to be next up at safety. After being beset with years of injuries, Johnson looked good in the spring and word has it that he showed out in the scrimmage on Saturday ($). He isn't being mentioned in the same breath as the big three at safety, but if you made me guess who's #4, it might be him. 

The two blue-chip freshmen safeties are getting mentioned as well, Keon Sabb and Zeke Berry. Berry admittedly appears a bit behind Sabb (the cost of not enrolling early), but Harbaugh said that he's "a real football player" and then threw out the Rod Moore comparison. As for Sabb, he popped up in one insider report ($), noting that he's playing all over the field and being used in a variety of roles. Neither were mentioned in the list of true freshmen likely to play all year that we were supplied with, though.

What it means: Michigan went a lot of last year using three safeties in the rotation, and that number grew to four by the end of the year when Moore got involved. That was the result of going 4-2-5 as the base and using Dax in the slot. With the Paige buzz, it wouldn't stun me if they try that again. Perhaps they could use Moore in the slot, if he's better at it than Sainristil, and then have Paige and Moten as your two high safeties. Regardless, it seems like Paige is primed for a much bigger role than he had in 2021. After those three, I think it's Quinten Johnson and then Sabb/Berry mix in, ideally in garbage time. 

Comments

Catchafire

August 16th, 2022 at 1:20 PM ^

Last year, the defense held its own and kept us in many games while the offense figured it out.  This year, I'm hoping the offense is so good that a decent to good defense is all we need to repeat as champions.

ShadowStorm33

August 16th, 2022 at 1:20 PM ^

At least there aren't many scary offenses on the schedule, and then not until late in the year. If nothing else, hopefully some of the younger guys develop by then, especially edge rushers.

HenneAndTheJets

August 16th, 2022 at 2:26 PM ^

I always think that game is going to be tough towards the beginning of the year because September Maryland is no joke. But by the time Michigan plays them, they've been decimated by injuries, especially at the skill positions, and their confidence is shattered. 

This year we get them in September, so I wouldn't be so sure about a Michigan blowout. A more mature Tualia could break out if this year if his receivers can stay healthy and his OL can keep him upright. Uncertainties on our D-line give me pause as well because Maryland will be the first P5 team we face. 

That being said, I hope I'm wrong again!

ShadowStorm33

August 16th, 2022 at 2:49 PM ^

I guess we do play them in September this year; thought it was later. Regardless, although the meme is "September Maryland," it really should be "early-September Maryland." Only twice since joining the B1G in 2014 have they gotten out of September unscathed (2016 and 2021), and those are also the only two years they started the season better than 2-0.

It's the first two games where you really have to worry, as they knocked off ranked Texas teams in the first games of the 2017 and 2018 seasons, a ranked Syracuse team in the second game of 2019, and a receiving votes West Virginia in last year's opener...

ShadowStorm33

August 16th, 2022 at 2:11 PM ^

True, probably the best offense we'll face in the first half of the season, though I'd say they're far from elite. I guess I'm not too worried about them since (1) we don't play them in September (they definitely seem to drop off a cliff after the first few games each year), and (2) we should easily be able to drop 50+ on their defense.

But the only offenses that truly scare me--OSU, probably Nebraska (there's always the potential that they finally put it all together), maybe PSU (given the talent there) or MSU (although losing Walker hurts them a ton)--are all in the second half of the year...

Lou MacAdoo

August 16th, 2022 at 1:20 PM ^

Looks like mostly good news. They should be a good D with a bright future. Edge and LB look very worrisome and will probably prevent them from being a great team, but hopefully some guys step up versus the cupcakes and take command of those positions. Perhaps some more disruption from the inside instead of the outside this year. I'm excited to see what they can do and I hope the great chemistry from last year carries over to this team.  

M_Born M_Believer

August 16th, 2022 at 1:34 PM ^

After reading this write up, I come away with 2 thoughts:

1) Most people (including any hopeful rival fan) is overplaying the drop off in DE play as well as the graduation of Dax Hill.  Will this defense be as good as last year?  Don't really know, but even if there is a drop off, it will not be as much as national blowhard writers and wishful thinking rivals want it to be.  This years defense is primed to have at least 3 impact defenders (Mazi, Junior, and Turner) and more than enough other players that will be more than solid (Jenkins, Moore, NHG, Moore, RJ, Green).  That already is 9 of the 11 starters.  Add in potential impact from others that were mentioned here for depth, I cannot see a major drop off happening here....  Hand wringing over 1 position (2nd starting Edge) to me is a very good thing.  The fewer question marks heading into the season tells me there is a good level of comfort on what the performance will be on the field

2) Off topic a little but I want to put it here.  I wanted to show full respect for the thread that was dedicated to Meechie and the end of practice.  But in my over zealous, did anyone else notice in the video that Harbaugh announced for the 1's on offense and defense to line up for the goal line play?  And who the QB was that took said snap with the 1's.....it was Cade.....

Again, that is most likely reading way too much into a very small sample, but I thought it was interesting anyway.....

Watching From Afar

August 16th, 2022 at 1:45 PM ^

1) Most people (including any hopeful rival fan) is overplaying the drop off in DE play

I mean, they're going from the best DE duo in school history to a EDGE group that has ~5 total sacks across about 6 guys. Fair to be concerned if not only for the reason that none of those guys really showed much pass rushing ability last year when they did get their chances early on and in passing downs (Upshaw/Morris in on 4 DE sets). Not saying the pass rush/DE play will crater, but it won't approach 25 Sacks and 28.5 TFLs. The rest of the defense last year added 9 sacks and 1/2 of that were from DEs with the rest from DTs and LBs/DBs.

M_Born M_Believer

August 16th, 2022 at 9:49 PM ^

You are only proving my point, you note that there will be a drop off from the DE position.  Well yay, when you go from 2 - 1st round draft picks (1 was the other was in position til his injury) to anyone, there will be a drop off.

You note the 25 sacks and 28.5 TFL from the DE last year and that the other DE only contributed 4-5 sacks.  Well there are a couple of points your missing...

1) Of course the other DE had fewer sacks, partially because they were not as good as Hutch and Ojabo, but also, they had significantly fewer plays (Hutch ~719 snaps, Morris ~311).  Again, I am NOT saying that Morris is the next Hutch, but when he will have the number of reps significantly higher, it stands to reason that he will produce some more sacks.

2) As for the balance, I would expect that Minter will create defensive packages that will generate a pass rush.  Last year McDonald's was pretty straight forward.... DTs hold the pocket center..... DE crash hard around the edges.  Will they be able to do that this year?  Not likely.  But its not like that is the ONLY way to generate a pass rush.

Again, its about the team as a whole not just the individual position.....

Given the schedule and the whole team ability, I would not be surprised if they finish in the Top 20 for defense

Watching From Afar

August 17th, 2022 at 9:27 AM ^

 they had significantly fewer plays (Hutch ~719 snaps, Morris ~311).

2016 is a good comparison. Winovich backed up Wormley and had 1/2 fewer sacks and 1 more TFL. He had I think 1/3 the snaps Wormley did so we could see the potential a year before he became a starter. Uche in 2018 was a situational pass rusher and had 2 more sacks than Winovich and just over half the TFLs. Point being, the ascending starter in both those years showed flashes of what they could be. Something I don't think Morris or anyone else has shown yet when it comes to pass rush specifically.

Given the schedule and the whole team ability, I would not be surprised if they finish in the Top 20 for defense

I fully expect the defense to be top 20 or 25. But the gap from 11 to ~20 is pretty big. The offense will have to lead this season to give the defense time to develop into a good unit. If they had a ND/Oklahoma type game early on I'd be more worried. 

outsidethebox

August 17th, 2022 at 8:38 AM ^

Many of "the rest of the defense" were "coached" by Nua...and are now being instructed by a real coach. And for the record, coaching is a huge difference-maker. I expect the interior DL play to be revolutionized in dramatically good fashion over the previous several years. Colson and Hill-Green came on to be very good last year...I expect them to be stars this year and Barrett and Mullings and others will fill important roles as well. Here, tying ones self into a knot over last year's statistics is silly. This defense will be similar but with appropriate tweaks-and likely as good or better than last year. 

WorldwideTJRob

August 16th, 2022 at 1:46 PM ^

Gemon Green is who he is…not expecting a “breakout” season from him. I think a lot of us are discounting the effect the pass rush had on the back end last year. Turner & Dax were really good…but Hutch and Ojabo getting in the QB’s face definitely benefitted a guy like V. Gray last season. The one time where they didn’t get home that much was against Georgia and Gray was exposed pretty badly in that game. We will take a step back unless we find different ways to generate some of that type of pressure this season. Hopefully Morris, Harrell & co. can step up  in time.

MGoBlue96

August 16th, 2022 at 1:47 PM ^

Definitely people overplaying how severe the drop off is going to be provided they don't have bad injury luck and that is not downplaying how good the guys lost are. There are alot of teams around the country that would take the amount of talent this defense has in a second even if a couple of spots are unsettled or in need of guys to step up. The schedule itself isn't exactly a murderers row of offenses either, and hopefully those spots are settled as the season goes on.

Jonesy

August 16th, 2022 at 5:03 PM ^

I think people are underplaying it. On every single play Hutch and Dax shut down half the field and Hutch destroyed half the offensive line and put the QB on a very short clock. Every single play. It's really easy for the other 9 people to defend half a field for only three seconds.

OldSchoolWolverine

August 16th, 2022 at 1:38 PM ^

My eyes told me after the spring game, that Graham will be in the two deep by mid season. He was doing well against our new center, and to me looked like a veteran.  

Jenkins still doesn't get the notice here..he's 290 and I will venture to say he will be better than Smith.  Happy to hear Benny's name because he sure looked good last year.  I was surprised Harbaugh praised Rooks over him. 

Lack of Welschof mention seems odd..

Mullings looked to me a top tier RB, and I think he is better than Dunlap, at least that what I see. 

McGregor still isn't the same post injury.  TJGuy looked good to me in spring, moved very well.  

yossarians tree

August 16th, 2022 at 1:39 PM ^

Blows my mind that we only have three rotational guys for the two true LB positions, but it seems like we've had a number of guys transfer from there. Just pray that Colson stays healthy. But they've shored up the secondary and DT very nicely in a short period of time. It seems our coaches are developing guys faster than even five years ago. Regardless we're going to have to outscore a couple teams this season, especially You Know Who.

TrueBlue2003

August 16th, 2022 at 2:02 PM ^

Yeah, and it's odd because the transfers all seemed like playing time transfers.

Both guys from the 2019 class transferred: Solomon and Thomas.

We took four LBs in 2020 but Mullings is now a RB, and both Wheeler and Savage transferred after just a year.  NHG is still around of course.

Surprising so many guys transferred so quickly despite knowing there would be spots to compete for, especially after Ross left.

 

Alex.Drain

August 16th, 2022 at 1:53 PM ^

In reference to everyone here- I should’ve included Welschof at DE because of the Freaks article. There were no other references to him otherwise.

figures to be in the EDGE rotation with everyone else 

Alex.Drain

August 16th, 2022 at 5:06 PM ^

I had Ojabo as my breakout guy in the hot takes segment but that's what it was mostly- a hot take. The buzz about him was not super crazy or anything. There were positive rumblings, probably more positive than any EDGE rumblings this year, but he was not getting "THIS GUY IS GOING TO BE AN ALL-B1G PLAYER" hype 

Coach Carr Camp

August 16th, 2022 at 2:45 PM ^

This is just not true. Ojabo was getting practive hype from his Freshman year. I think 2020 would have been a breakout year for him, but he got stuck in Scotland due to covid travel restrictions and was only able to join team late in camp. I think that, along with other 2020 qualifiers, disrupted what would have been a breakout year. But the point is that while he had little stats accumulated beforehand there was much more reason to beleive Ojabo was primed to step up last year than we are seeing with anyone this year.  

Gobgoblue

August 16th, 2022 at 2:14 PM ^

Listen, I like the off season Feldman Freaks list hype as much as the next guy, but we're all in agreement that we are just willfully overlooking the BS factor, right? Michigan has good guys who are big, strong, and fast, but I'd bet the mortgage that DJ Turner does not run a 4.2x 40, nor does Mazi smith actually bench that much. Michigan S&C is totally inflating these stats when they send Feldman the "verified" info. It's fun and not important, but let's not be naive and think it's 100% accurate.