I mean I know what you're saying, we ran the entire second half and held onto our lead, but do we get that lead in the first place if we never passed in the first half either?
I do have to look at the fact that Warren couldn't complete a pass last year against East Carolina, UNLV or Nebraska.
Yeah, he certainly didn't look good last year after looking promising in 2022. No idea what happened. Maybe it was the Harbaugh QB regression curse (JJ was the first Harbaugh starting QB since Luck at Stanford to finish his career at M (S in Luck's case) instead of transferring or switching positions)?
Either way it doesn't matter. NCAA says that you need to be 80% of the way to your degree after your 4th year, but M won't give more than 60 transfer credits (and that's assuming he has 60 credits that would transfer--no small issue with M's credit policy), meaning that he'd be at only 50% here and thus ineligible for athletics. Even if the COVID year didn't count for the academic progress requirements (40% after 2nd year, 60% after 3rd year, 80% after 4th year), i.e. he had been in school four years but only needed to be at 60%, he'd still be ineligible, as he couldn't be any higher than 50% when he comes here (unless I guess he busts his ass all summer to make it to 60% by the fall?).
There's nothing wrong with a policy that says you have to get at least 50% of your credits from M to graduate with an M degree. If someone gets 99% of their credits at a different school, transfers to M and takes that last course, should they be able to get an M degree? NO! They can get the degree from their old school. I actually know someone who did that in reverse. She finished four years at M two credits short of graduation, and got the final credits from a (already transfer-approved) BYU online course. She graduated from M, not BYU.
So this, a cap on 50% credit transfer, in combination with the NCAA progress requirement (40% after soph year, 60% after junior year, 80% after senior year), is why we can't get non-grad-transfers older than sophomores...
No, it was Warren; it was more of a feels thing than a numbers thing. I distinctly remember the Hawaii game, where the QB progression went JJ => Cade => Warren. JJ was lights out (6 TDs, 1 punt). Cade came in, looked super shaky, and the offense ground to a halt (punt, punt, punt, INT). But when Warren came in, the offense picked back up again (TD, TD, EOG) and he looked pretty smooth, a huge step up from Cade. Plenty of people wondered afterward if Warren should be ahead of Cade on the depth chart, but then Cade got hurt the next week and was out for the rest of the season.
I mean, just look at the stats from the Hawaii game:
Yes, Warren was only 2/4, but his QBR was only 2.6 points below JJ (who had a near-perfect game), and 3.4 points from the max QBR (100). Maybe the incompletions were drops? And Cade was 1.8, when the minimum is 0. So I don't think the completion percentage tells the whole story...
Yeah. Honestly it feels like kind of a stretch to even label Orji as a Guy instead of Iffy like the other QBs. They clearly had ZERO trust in his ability to throw last year. They called one pass the entire season (which he didn't even throw--he ran it OOB instead), and didn't let him pass at all in garbage time, which would have the perfect time to try and get him some reps, since if he throws a pick, who cares, the game's already over. It's really no different than the PepCat, which if I remember correctly also called exactly one extremely obvious pass that Peppers didn't end up attempting. Would anyone have been excited if Peppers was then the likely starter at QB in 2017? No, we would all have been terrified.
And we should be terrified. It doesn't matter how good of a runner he is (because let's face it, we won't be running an option or wishbone offense) if he's not a decent or better passer, games against any good defenses will be slogfests as they stack the box and dare us to throw. I get shades of the 2012 Bama, ND and Nebraska games.
It's not that he can't turn the corner, but the talk hasn't been instilling much confidence that he's markedly improved from where he was last year...
The flipside view/question is: does it impact recruiting? We've been to three straight playoffs, winning this past year, and yet we haven't had much of any kind of recruiting bump (I get that NIL has had a huge impact).
The one big what-if possibility for me is if we beat OSU in 2016, maybe Harbaugh doesn't lose his fire and have that weird zombie period from 2017-2020. But given how things played out, I can't help shake the feeling like we were still going to need a wholesale overhaul of the coaching staff in order to reach the mountain top...
Which makes sense. There's no sense burdening current coaches with unnecessary penalties to fight for the honor of coaches that aren't here anymore.
But the frustrating thing is the thought that this repeated failure to stand up to the NCAA's (and B1G's) bullshit is in part what pushed those coaches out the door in the first place...
It does matter where guys are taken. As has been discussed, the team they go to is extremely important. Good luck succeeding on a team with a shitty supporting cast, especially at OL (as an aside, probably the best argument for why Brady is the GOAT isn't the seven rings, but rather that he did what he did with the offensive "weapons" he was stuck with; other than a few years (mostly 2007-2010), the offensive skill players around him were just guys...).
But draft slot is also important. Counterintuitively, a given QB will actually have a higher chance of success the lower they're drafted. The QB is the same either way, but taking them lower rather than higher allows for accumulation of other talent. For example, Brady's chances for early success were boosted by the fact that he was taken in the sixth round instead of the first (like Peyton), since the Pats got Brady and a first rounder instead of Brady and a sixth rounder...
This is a great point, but it's complicated by the further question of fit. JaMarcus Russell (for example) was probably always going to be a massive bust, but would some of these other guys have looked different on a different team (with a different coach, GM, supporting cast, etc.)? My guess is at least some of them would.
It's tough because as a fan, we're conflicted. Not surprisingly a big part of us wants our guys to go as high as possible, but on the flipside, we also want them to go to teams where they'll be likely to succeed...
Kind of a bummer for M fans that were thinking of attending (at least the first round). With Jenkins projected as a likely 2nd day pick, JJ was really the only hope for an in-person, round 1 pick...
I think he does better, but still flames out. Maybe more like Hoke's tenure. At the end of the day, he was the vanguard of an innovative system, but while he could add some wrinkles here and there (think some of the great first halves we had--a PSU game with Minor comes to mind--where we fizzled once they figured it out), he couldn't continue innovating once his read-option system was figured out.
Good point on the OL. Once you look closely, you see that really the only OL Hoke had that were good were ones that were initially developed under RRod and Frey. The OL brought in under Funk floundered, except for a few leftovers that Drevno got some improvement from early in Harbaugh's tenure.
Mason Cole really encapsulates the Funk thing for me. I honestly think his best year was his true Fr. year. It's as if the coaching he got in HS was better than what he got from Funk, because he (and other OL) seemed to get worse, not better, as they went along under Funk. Dude was easily one of the few worst coaches we've had here in our lifetimes...
Given that I'm firmly in the camp that what CS did was gray area at best,* this question is irrelevant to me.
*The only thing in my mind that may have actually violated the letter of the law would be the CMU thing, but to me, the Occam's Razor/most plausible scenario is that he was there to help CMU. It just doesn't make sense to go to all that trouble (and if that was him, he was clearly trying to disguise himself, i.e. he knew it was problematic to be identified) for a much inferior vantage point than just sitting incognito in the stands (not to mention that on top of it, he either wasn't recording (way inferior for intelligence purposes), or trying to record with camera glasses which, again, are much inferior to using a phone camera from the stands).
This is a very good take. While it's easy to play the "what-if" game, and I'm certain that lack of motivation after falling just short of the BCS title game played a role in our poor performance against USC, we had some major flaws that got exposed against OSU and USC that Florida very likely would have exposed as well.
While we had arguably the best DL in the country, our back seven generally lacked speed and we had a major liability at CB2. We got torched by OSU's spread (can easily see Florida doing the same thing) and USC's receivers. On the offensive side, we had an incredibly talented offense, but a reluctance to open it up until it was too late (had we come out with 2008 Capital One Bowl offense against OSU from the start, we may have won that one in a shootout...).
You're right, ND was a mirage of sorts. We feasted on their poor OL (Brady Quinn was under siege all game, and they had no running game whatsoever--it was a nearly a double rushing Rutger (47 points to 24 yards) even with sacks excluded; include the sacks and ND had 4 yards rushing), and lit up their horrendous defense (they gave up 47, 44 and 41 points in their three blowout losses, plus 37 in a win over MSU). But even despite the DL's domination ND was still able to put up three passing TDs (a harbinger of things to come).
Honestly, and especially with Harbaugh gone, I think we're the only ones that actively remember this question is sitting out there unanswered, and since it's fallen off the radar, CMU is perfectly fine letting it slide into the ether...
I had never heard of him (my first thought when I read the name was OJ's brother), so I looked him up. Among other things I found was a nice summary of the Jason-was-the-killer theory on Reddit, and while I can't speak for the accuracy of the purported facts, I'm not going to lie, it made a compelling argument...
BC is playing like we should have played in 2022, but instead we played tight as shit. Unfortunately this is trending like last year, where we just plain got outclassed. Guh...
Did some comments get deleted out of the OJ thread, or a user get banned (and thus his comments deleted)? I ask because I was part of a sub-conversation re the website design/HUEL that's not there anymore (the original top-level comment is still there, but a series of sub-comments are gone). Not that I really care one way or the other, but the thought of comments being deleted because they were critical of HUEL and the website redesign strikes me as something that Ace would do, but the current writers/mods not so much...
But doesn't the fact that 12 jurors (plus how ever many others) found that there was doubt prove that there's doubt (however small)? I guess I can't wrap my head around the argument that there's undisputedly zero doubt when there are people who have looked at the evidence (including 12 jurors) and said there's some doubt here.
As an aside, I don't think I'd care so much if it wasn't for the hyperbole. I haven't seen a single person on here saying anything other than that OJ likely was the killer. But you have someone saying OJ probably did it, though there are a few things that don't quite add up (which seems like a perfectly reasonable take), and then other people jump down his throat saying there's absolutely zero doubt and essentially there's no way to think there's doubt unless you haven't looked at the evidence. There's almost always doubt of some sort. My guess is that the number of criminal cases in which there's truly no doubt is incredibly small. So it just seems like a weird hill to die on...
Also back then nobody talked about CTE, seemed pretty obvious at the time he was the murderer, I wonder how confident his lawyers were going into the trial.
That's a really interesting question. Have no way of knowing how confident they were, and honestly I bet they couldn't in their wildest dreams have expected the prosecution to make so many mistakes. They very well may have taken the CTE/insanity defense today feeling like it had a higher chance of success than getting a straight acquittal...
Oh yes, if you are old enough, 'pulling an OJ' was the term for making a mad dash through the airport to catch a plane.
Had an experience like that back in 2016. Was catching the last flight out of BWI to Detroit the Friday night before a September game, taking the MARC from DC to BWI. The stop before the BWI transfer (Odenton I think), the train stops as normal, but doesn't leave. We sit, and sit, and sit. watching the clock, wondering what's going on (found out later someone committed suicide on the tracks). Eventually four of us complete strangers went together on an Uber to take us to the airport. I got there 35 minutes before takeoff, thankfully there was literally no one waiting at security, and I sprinted through the airport to the gate to make my flight...
Come on now, that's just hyperbole. If there was zero doubt, how the hell was he acquitted? I'm not even sure you can bungle a case that badly (unless you're trying to, and even then...), at least when there's evidence to present (as opposed to where all the evidence has been excluded). It's highly likely (almost certain?) OJ was the killer, but like pretty much every other case out there, there was at least some semblance of doubt or things that didn't quite add up...
Not trying to make excuses for it, or suggest that it contributed (in OJ's case, or otherwise), but at least a few murder-suicides come to mind where CTE was present and has been speculated to have played a role. E.g.:
I've never seen the Made in America or American Crime Story miniseries--which I've heard are both excellent--but I did watch that Fox interview special a number of years back that was supposed to be tied to the If I Did It book, and it was...something...
Like NittanyFan said, it'd be shocking if our game in 2025 isn't played at a bigger stadium (my money is on Wrigley, but Soldier Field is another possibility)...
The Gophers and Hoosiers haven't sniffed a title since 1967.
To be fair, Indiana was hosed out of a BTCG appearance in 2020. The title game rightly should have been...checks notes...Indiana vs. Northwestern?!?...
There used to be a minimum for average attendance in order to maintain FBS status, though it was seemingly never enforced, but apparently they got rid of that last year (likely because it was never enforced)...
I know people just think of him as an elite recruiter, but there was a point in time where he was also considered a great Xs and Os coach, particularly on the defensive side. Dude took three different schools (including UMass) to the Final Four.
Now granted he is on the tail end of his career, but I think he could surprise people with what he could do with slightly less talent, but more continuity (i.e. 4*s but not one-and-dones).
Can't be all smiles when we take Tony Alford away from OSU then flail our arms up in the air yelling at the clouds when one of our own wants to go to MSU.
Are people yelling at the clouds about this? It's not like OSU hiring Mattison or Bama hiring Helow, where there might be some competitive advantage to go along with it, since we're going to have a brand new team and coaching staff. Really it's more like OSU hiring Drevno; if they want him, by all means. I'm more surprised that MSU would want to take him than anything given the way the past few years have gone...
there's ironically now a sense that there's more of a history between the Wings and various Western teams than any of the Eastern teams.
Not sure about others, but this was my feeling then. We were leaving the Western Conference, where we had a ton of history and rivalries, and moving to the East where we had none. The travel thing strikes me as kind of a weak excuse anyway, since there are at best only a couple Eastern teams within driving distance. It's not like the Wings are on the East Coast...
Wonder where this would rank on the list of shocking coaching moves.
Up there with Chip Kelly and Rocky Long voluntarily leaving their HC jobs to become coordinators at schools in (or about to be in) the same conference as their old school...
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I mean I know what you're saying, we ran the entire second half and held onto our lead, but do we get that lead in the first place if we never passed in the first half either?
Yeah, he certainly didn't look good last year after looking promising in 2022. No idea what happened. Maybe it was the Harbaugh QB regression curse (JJ was the first Harbaugh starting QB since Luck at Stanford to finish his career at M (S in Luck's case) instead of transferring or switching positions)?
Either way it doesn't matter. NCAA says that you need to be 80% of the way to your degree after your 4th year, but M won't give more than 60 transfer credits (and that's assuming he has 60 credits that would transfer--no small issue with M's credit policy), meaning that he'd be at only 50% here and thus ineligible for athletics. Even if the COVID year didn't count for the academic progress requirements (40% after 2nd year, 60% after 3rd year, 80% after 4th year), i.e. he had been in school four years but only needed to be at 60%, he'd still be ineligible, as he couldn't be any higher than 50% when he comes here (unless I guess he busts his ass all summer to make it to 60% by the fall?).
There's nothing wrong with a policy that says you have to get at least 50% of your credits from M to graduate with an M degree. If someone gets 99% of their credits at a different school, transfers to M and takes that last course, should they be able to get an M degree? NO! They can get the degree from their old school. I actually know someone who did that in reverse. She finished four years at M two credits short of graduation, and got the final credits from a (already transfer-approved) BYU online course. She graduated from M, not BYU.
So this, a cap on 50% credit transfer, in combination with the NCAA progress requirement (40% after soph year, 60% after junior year, 80% after senior year), is why we can't get non-grad-transfers older than sophomores...
Even more so, I'd say that playing less than half the position (the coaches didn't let him pass) is not a "rotation role"...
No, it was Warren; it was more of a feels thing than a numbers thing. I distinctly remember the Hawaii game, where the QB progression went JJ => Cade => Warren. JJ was lights out (6 TDs, 1 punt). Cade came in, looked super shaky, and the offense ground to a halt (punt, punt, punt, INT). But when Warren came in, the offense picked back up again (TD, TD, EOG) and he looked pretty smooth, a huge step up from Cade. Plenty of people wondered afterward if Warren should be ahead of Cade on the depth chart, but then Cade got hurt the next week and was out for the rest of the season.
I mean, just look at the stats from the Hawaii game:
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
J.J. McCarthy 11/12 229 19.1 3 0 99.2
Davis Warren 2/4 65 16.3 0 0 96.6
Cade McNamara 4/6 26 4.3 0 1 1.8
Yes, Warren was only 2/4, but his QBR was only 2.6 points below JJ (who had a near-perfect game), and 3.4 points from the max QBR (100). Maybe the incompletions were drops? And Cade was 1.8, when the minimum is 0. So I don't think the completion percentage tells the whole story...
Yeah. Honestly it feels like kind of a stretch to even label Orji as a Guy instead of Iffy like the other QBs. They clearly had ZERO trust in his ability to throw last year. They called one pass the entire season (which he didn't even throw--he ran it OOB instead), and didn't let him pass at all in garbage time, which would have the perfect time to try and get him some reps, since if he throws a pick, who cares, the game's already over. It's really no different than the PepCat, which if I remember correctly also called exactly one extremely obvious pass that Peppers didn't end up attempting. Would anyone have been excited if Peppers was then the likely starter at QB in 2017? No, we would all have been terrified.
And we should be terrified. It doesn't matter how good of a runner he is (because let's face it, we won't be running an option or wishbone offense) if he's not a decent or better passer, games against any good defenses will be slogfests as they stack the box and dare us to throw. I get shades of the 2012 Bama, ND and Nebraska games.
It's not that he can't turn the corner, but the talk hasn't been instilling much confidence that he's markedly improved from where he was last year...
The flipside view/question is: does it impact recruiting? We've been to three straight playoffs, winning this past year, and yet we haven't had much of any kind of recruiting bump (I get that NIL has had a huge impact).
The one big what-if possibility for me is if we beat OSU in 2016, maybe Harbaugh doesn't lose his fire and have that weird zombie period from 2017-2020. But given how things played out, I can't help shake the feeling like we were still going to need a wholesale overhaul of the coaching staff in order to reach the mountain top...
I'm most curious as to who all the individuals are...
Which makes sense. There's no sense burdening current coaches with unnecessary penalties to fight for the honor of coaches that aren't here anymore.
But the frustrating thing is the thought that this repeated failure to stand up to the NCAA's (and B1G's) bullshit is in part what pushed those coaches out the door in the first place...
Well it did get Warde selected as the head of the CFP Committee...
Can't say it's surprising...
Unless I'm missing it, they didn't name the individual coaches, correct?
Watch what you say, the last HUEL discussion mysteriously disappeared...
It does matter where guys are taken. As has been discussed, the team they go to is extremely important. Good luck succeeding on a team with a shitty supporting cast, especially at OL (as an aside, probably the best argument for why Brady is the GOAT isn't the seven rings, but rather that he did what he did with the offensive "weapons" he was stuck with; other than a few years (mostly 2007-2010), the offensive skill players around him were just guys...).
But draft slot is also important. Counterintuitively, a given QB will actually have a higher chance of success the lower they're drafted. The QB is the same either way, but taking them lower rather than higher allows for accumulation of other talent. For example, Brady's chances for early success were boosted by the fact that he was taken in the sixth round instead of the first (like Peyton), since the Pats got Brady and a first rounder instead of Brady and a sixth rounder...
This is a great point, but it's complicated by the further question of fit. JaMarcus Russell (for example) was probably always going to be a massive bust, but would some of these other guys have looked different on a different team (with a different coach, GM, supporting cast, etc.)? My guess is at least some of them would.
It's tough because as a fan, we're conflicted. Not surprisingly a big part of us wants our guys to go as high as possible, but on the flipside, we also want them to go to teams where they'll be likely to succeed...
Finally some good news...
I'll never get over the irony of OSU expecting us to get hammered by the NCAA...
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I mean, with two of the top five-ish players already gone, I'd say that prediction is completely dead...
Kind of a bummer for M fans that were thinking of attending (at least the first round). With Jenkins projected as a likely 2nd day pick, JJ was really the only hope for an in-person, round 1 pick...
I think he does better, but still flames out. Maybe more like Hoke's tenure. At the end of the day, he was the vanguard of an innovative system, but while he could add some wrinkles here and there (think some of the great first halves we had--a PSU game with Minor comes to mind--where we fizzled once they figured it out), he couldn't continue innovating once his read-option system was figured out.
Good point on the OL. Once you look closely, you see that really the only OL Hoke had that were good were ones that were initially developed under RRod and Frey. The OL brought in under Funk floundered, except for a few leftovers that Drevno got some improvement from early in Harbaugh's tenure.
Mason Cole really encapsulates the Funk thing for me. I honestly think his best year was his true Fr. year. It's as if the coaching he got in HS was better than what he got from Funk, because he (and other OL) seemed to get worse, not better, as they went along under Funk. Dude was easily one of the few worst coaches we've had here in our lifetimes...
Given that I'm firmly in the camp that what CS did was gray area at best,* this question is irrelevant to me.
*The only thing in my mind that may have actually violated the letter of the law would be the CMU thing, but to me, the Occam's Razor/most plausible scenario is that he was there to help CMU. It just doesn't make sense to go to all that trouble (and if that was him, he was clearly trying to disguise himself, i.e. he knew it was problematic to be identified) for a much inferior vantage point than just sitting incognito in the stands (not to mention that on top of it, he either wasn't recording (way inferior for intelligence purposes), or trying to record with camera glasses which, again, are much inferior to using a phone camera from the stands).
This is a very good take. While it's easy to play the "what-if" game, and I'm certain that lack of motivation after falling just short of the BCS title game played a role in our poor performance against USC, we had some major flaws that got exposed against OSU and USC that Florida very likely would have exposed as well.
While we had arguably the best DL in the country, our back seven generally lacked speed and we had a major liability at CB2. We got torched by OSU's spread (can easily see Florida doing the same thing) and USC's receivers. On the offensive side, we had an incredibly talented offense, but a reluctance to open it up until it was too late (had we come out with 2008 Capital One Bowl offense against OSU from the start, we may have won that one in a shootout...).
You're right, ND was a mirage of sorts. We feasted on their poor OL (Brady Quinn was under siege all game, and they had no running game whatsoever--it was a nearly a double rushing Rutger (47 points to 24 yards) even with sacks excluded; include the sacks and ND had 4 yards rushing), and lit up their horrendous defense (they gave up 47, 44 and 41 points in their three blowout losses, plus 37 in a win over MSU). But even despite the DL's domination ND was still able to put up three passing TDs (a harbinger of things to come).
Honestly, and especially with Harbaugh gone, I think we're the only ones that actively remember this question is sitting out there unanswered, and since it's fallen off the radar, CMU is perfectly fine letting it slide into the ether...
I had never heard of him (my first thought when I read the name was OJ's brother), so I looked him up. Among other things I found was a nice summary of the Jason-was-the-killer theory on Reddit, and while I can't speak for the accuracy of the purported facts, I'm not going to lie, it made a compelling argument...
BC is playing like we should have played in 2022, but instead we played tight as shit. Unfortunately this is trending like last year, where we just plain got outclassed. Guh...
Did some comments get deleted out of the OJ thread, or a user get banned (and thus his comments deleted)? I ask because I was part of a sub-conversation re the website design/HUEL that's not there anymore (the original top-level comment is still there, but a series of sub-comments are gone). Not that I really care one way or the other, but the thought of comments being deleted because they were critical of HUEL and the website redesign strikes me as something that Ace would do, but the current writers/mods not so much...
Can you enlighten the uninformed?
But doesn't the fact that 12 jurors (plus how ever many others) found that there was doubt prove that there's doubt (however small)? I guess I can't wrap my head around the argument that there's undisputedly zero doubt when there are people who have looked at the evidence (including 12 jurors) and said there's some doubt here.
As an aside, I don't think I'd care so much if it wasn't for the hyperbole. I haven't seen a single person on here saying anything other than that OJ likely was the killer. But you have someone saying OJ probably did it, though there are a few things that don't quite add up (which seems like a perfectly reasonable take), and then other people jump down his throat saying there's absolutely zero doubt and essentially there's no way to think there's doubt unless you haven't looked at the evidence. There's almost always doubt of some sort. My guess is that the number of criminal cases in which there's truly no doubt is incredibly small. So it just seems like a weird hill to die on...
That's a really interesting question. Have no way of knowing how confident they were, and honestly I bet they couldn't in their wildest dreams have expected the prosecution to make so many mistakes. They very well may have taken the CTE/insanity defense today feeling like it had a higher chance of success than getting a straight acquittal...
Had an experience like that back in 2016. Was catching the last flight out of BWI to Detroit the Friday night before a September game, taking the MARC from DC to BWI. The stop before the BWI transfer (Odenton I think), the train stops as normal, but doesn't leave. We sit, and sit, and sit. watching the clock, wondering what's going on (found out later someone committed suicide on the tracks). Eventually four of us complete strangers went together on an Uber to take us to the airport. I got there 35 minutes before takeoff, thankfully there was literally no one waiting at security, and I sprinted through the airport to the gate to make my flight...
Yeah I figured. I'm talking now...
More like "Probably the worst thing to come out of OJ is making the Kardashians" (at least Khloe), amirite?!?...
Come on now, that's just hyperbole. If there was zero doubt, how the hell was he acquitted? I'm not even sure you can bungle a case that badly (unless you're trying to, and even then...), at least when there's evidence to present (as opposed to where all the evidence has been excluded). It's highly likely (almost certain?) OJ was the killer, but like pretty much every other case out there, there was at least some semblance of doubt or things that didn't quite add up...
Wonder if Reggie Bush's picture is still up?
Not trying to make excuses for it, or suggest that it contributed (in OJ's case, or otherwise), but at least a few murder-suicides come to mind where CTE was present and has been speculated to have played a role. E.g.:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/us/phillip-adams-nfl-cte/index.html
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/998526/what-we-learned-about-chris-benoits-brain-after-his-death/
I've never seen the Made in America or American Crime Story miniseries--which I've heard are both excellent--but I did watch that Fox interview special a number of years back that was supposed to be tied to the If I Did It book, and it was...something...
Like NittanyFan said, it'd be shocking if our game in 2025 isn't played at a bigger stadium (my money is on Wrigley, but Soldier Field is another possibility)...
Kind of makes you wonder how good they could be if the school actually cared about them...
To be fair, Indiana was hosed out of a BTCG appearance in 2020. The title game rightly should have been...checks notes...Indiana vs. Northwestern?!?...
Didn't they already sell those off?
There used to be a minimum for average attendance in order to maintain FBS status, though it was seemingly never enforced, but apparently they got rid of that last year (likely because it was never enforced)...
I know people just think of him as an elite recruiter, but there was a point in time where he was also considered a great Xs and Os coach, particularly on the defensive side. Dude took three different schools (including UMass) to the Final Four.
Now granted he is on the tail end of his career, but I think he could surprise people with what he could do with slightly less talent, but more continuity (i.e. 4*s but not one-and-dones).
Are people yelling at the clouds about this? It's not like OSU hiring Mattison or Bama hiring Helow, where there might be some competitive advantage to go along with it, since we're going to have a brand new team and coaching staff. Really it's more like OSU hiring Drevno; if they want him, by all means. I'm more surprised that MSU would want to take him than anything given the way the past few years have gone...
Not sure about others, but this was my feeling then. We were leaving the Western Conference, where we had a ton of history and rivalries, and moving to the East where we had none. The travel thing strikes me as kind of a weak excuse anyway, since there are at best only a couple Eastern teams within driving distance. It's not like the Wings are on the East Coast...
Up there with Chip Kelly and Rocky Long voluntarily leaving their HC jobs to become coordinators at schools in (or about to be in) the same conference as their old school...