OT: Dealing With Loss of a Loved One

Submitted by Darker Blue on

Fellow MGoFriends,

A little over 2 weeks ago I lost one of the best friends I've ever had. He was 33 years old and died due to liver failure from too many years of excessive drinking and drug use.

This guy was easily the most talented (artistically speaking) person I've ever met. Incredible tattoo artist and an amazing painter. I've had a painting he painted for me hanging on my wall in my bedroom for about 4 years now. 

He was also way too goddamn smart to die like he did. Basically he killed himself.

I've s pent the last couple of weeks moping around not really sure how to cope with the grief. That's part of the reason I'm posting this now. Putting things in to words seems to make me feel better.

If you have a loved one who has a problem with addiction, talk to them, let them know that you love them. Let them know that you will have their back no matter what. Mostly let them know that they aren't alone. 

Thanks for allowing me to get this off my chest.  If its too much feel free to delete it.

Darker Blue

May 5th, 2016 at 9:33 AM ^

Its never too late, as long as you're breathing you can give it up.

I've never been addicted to anything other than Nicotine and Caffeine, but I use a lot of different mind altering substances. Not that that makes me any kind of expert, but I've seen a lot of friends struggle with addiction. 

Its not too late. 

Until it is too late. 

Find something  else to fill that hole that you're trying to fill with booze. 

 

EDIT: Sorry I read your other post saying you'd been sober since October after I had already written this. Keep doing whatever it is you're doing. If you ever need anything I would be more than happy to exchange contact information. 

Everyone Murders

May 5th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

Thanks for sharing this - I bet you'll positively affect someone else's life by sharing this today.  And I'm sure it was simultaneously hard yet relieving to give your story regarding dealing with alcoholism.  Hats off to you sir!!

But you were still offsides.

Darker Blue

May 5th, 2016 at 9:00 AM ^

no, and honestly I haven't even thought about it.

I'm okay, I've been sad as I've ever been in my life for the last couple of weeks but they say Time heals all wounds or something...

One good thing that happened as a result of his passing, was I was able to reconnect with a bunch of people that I had lost touch with. We were all really close (in fact there was a time in my early 20's when there was like 6 of us staying in this little shitty two bedroom apt. 

Over the years I had lost touch with most of those guys, the only one who stayed constant was the guy who passed away. But since he died, I've been able to sit down and have long heart felt talks with the rest of those guys. 

We all decided that we missed those days, and all need to do a much better job staying in touch with one another. 

Wolverine In Iowa 68

May 5th, 2016 at 10:08 AM ^

Time just makes the pain easier to bear.

I've been through loss, not like yours, but I do fully know what it's like to lose someone close to you (my ex-wife and I lost two infants).  Understand, the grieving process is unique to everyone.  We're all different, and we all go through differnt thoughts, feelings, emotions...all of it.  Whatever you feel is perfectly normal for you.  Embrace it and give yourself the time you need. 

THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT.  I can't stress that enough.  It's been just over 10 years since my son was still born, and I still have moments where it hurts as bad as that first moment when the doctor told us his heartbeat was gone.  Don't let anyone tell you different.

On counseling.  I've been through various programs.  I strongly encourage you to look into it.  If you don't like full blown sessions with a doctor, you might try a support group.  If you call a help line and explain what happened, they can probably recommend a group near you of people who have also lost close friends to addiction.  Those give you people to talk with who can share experiences to help you feel like you're not alone. 

Above all, don't wait too long.  Don't let your grief turn into depression.  That can lead to bad things.

Good on the tattoos.  I have 3 memorial tattoos for my kids, and I love them.  Having that permanent rememberance of them helps. 

My sincerest condolences Darker Blue.

Grampy

May 5th, 2016 at 11:07 AM ^

Just as addiction is stigmatized, so is the need for counseling.  Please disregard any judgements from others (and particularly from yourself) about getting help.  When I has some counseling, it was the best thing I ever did for myself.  A good counseler will help you become aware of the parts of yourself that you wouldn't otherwise access.  I would say the same thing about the support you can get from Al Anon.  Accept help and don't judge.

As an aside, my problems somehow feel pretty trivial reading this post...

Blue in Yarmouth

May 5th, 2016 at 8:48 AM ^

It's been 6 years since I lost my best friend. My Father and I had always had a great father/son relationship but once I got in my twenties it changed to include being best friends as well. We did everything together. We would fish, hunt, go four wheeling and just hang out. I even bought an old house so that the two of us could rennovate it in an effort to spend more time together.

He had kidney failure and required a transplant. My mother was luckily a suitable donor and gave Dad one of hers. It all went well and for about 6 months he did very well. Then during a snow storm he had a heart attack and was taken to hospital. Again, everything turned out okay and he waited in hospital unit he could have a test to determine how badly his ateries were blocked. 

The night before the test he and I were talking and he was saying how he couldn't wait for spring to go to the camp and fish. He wanted to try fly fishing this year, something he had never done. We were both excited and at the end of our conversation he said, "I feel better than I have in years".

I kissed him goodnight and told him I loved him and went home, anxious to hear how his test went. The next morning at 6 am my phone rang and it was my sister. She was crying so hard I couldn't understand what she was saying until she finally stop long enough to get it out. I remember that moment like it was yesterday. I collapsed on my bathroom floor and felt as though my entire life was crashing down around me. 

Some many things bother me about losing my Father but one of the worst was the fact that he was alone in a hospital when it happened. The fact I wasn't there still haunts me today,.

As far as dealing with it goes...I don't know man. There still isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of and miss him like crazy. When I visit his grave I still find tears running down my face. It's something you never get over, you just learn to cope a little better. Really sorry for your loss my friend. 

chortle

May 5th, 2016 at 9:18 AM ^

Your story of your dad being your best friend is really great. I am glad you shared that with us.

I lost my dad 17 years ago this month. it still hurts me.

I have spent a lot of time thinking about him wondering why he isn't with me any more.

Several years ago I realized that he isn't really gone, mom isn't gone either.  They are both right in my mirror, I see them all the time.  They are in me!

I carry both of them and can see them in my children and grandchildren.

I talk to them in my private moments, I share everything on my mind.

I find that as long as I keep them in my life, they are with me every day.

As long as you keep their memory live, they will never die.

mGrowOld

May 5th, 2016 at 9:32 AM ^

I felt the same way about my dad too as I got older.  I lost him in March of 2008 and my mom passed away almost one year to the day later (they were married 61 years and I dont think she wanted live anymore without him).  There isnt a day that goes by that I dont think about him.

He shows up in my dreams a lot.  I like those dreams.

evenyoubrutus

May 5th, 2016 at 8:56 AM ^

We joke a lot here about alcohol (and I have joined in on it too) but for too many people this is such a serious issue. My lawyer passed away at the age of 34 for the same reason, and my uncle died at 54 due to a combination of alcoholism and Hepatitis C, which ultimately led to liveth cancer. Experiencing stuff like this can literally be a sobering experience. Really just so sad.

julesh

May 5th, 2016 at 8:56 AM ^

When my brother died I took up crocheting. It gave me something to think about other than the grief. I no longer need it to deal with that, but I now have a hobby I really enjoy.

kevin holt

May 5th, 2016 at 8:57 AM ^

One of my good friends and housemates from college (we graduated in 2012) died unexpectedly about a month ago. I still don't know how to deal with it. it seems like it didn't really happen. And now I find myself thinking about my own mortality with an alarming frequency and it's been really hard. I'm sorry for your loss.

Clarence Boddicker

May 5th, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^

My mother died in a house fire last November 24th--she was 67 and was just fine when I'd spoken to her 3 days prior. It has been very tough to recover from, but I teach and I write fiction, and continuing to do those things--and do them exceptionally well--has made all the difference in managing the pain of that loss. I loved my mom very much and will always miss her, but life carries on. This site, with our thrills and amusements, has been a fun escape too.

oldcityblue

May 5th, 2016 at 9:23 AM ^

The grieving process is a natural, necessary time of healing, and is very subjective.Take the time to feel, remember and celebrate your friend.Find others that loved him and offer your support.

buddhafrog

May 5th, 2016 at 9:41 AM ^

Lost my mom four years ago. It's still with me. Often it's quiet and in the background. Often her rememberance is a very positive thing. But sometimes, surprisingly, it breaks my heart. When I see my kids do something wonderful, I want to share it where her ... things that remind me of my loss of her. 

Death is a strange thing. You adapt, but you don't completely move on.

Cali Wolverine

May 5th, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^

Just found out that my wife's chemo regiment is no longer working after a year of no growth, great quality of life and little side affects. Since my wife's cancer is stage 4, it is a little dicey finding the right next treatment for her that won't preclude her from future studies down the road. That said she approaches cancer treatment like Harbaugh approaches college football.

DowntownLJB

May 5th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^

good luck to her Cali.

my sympathy to all of you dealing with recent (or not so recent) losses or health complications for loved ones. 

it's just over 20 years ago that my family buried my 35 year old sister who'd suffered a heart attack.  at some point during last fall's football season, her absence hit me like a ton of bricks out of nowhere.  I was thinking about how much she would've loved to go to a game with me at the stadium and how we'd never gotten to do that together (I was in M law school when she died)... whew.  anyway, I agree with those who've said keep living and moving forward, but that time doesn't exactly "heal".

King Douche Ornery

May 5th, 2016 at 9:50 AM ^

Do people love wallowing in misery?

It's almost like it's a contest. When one dope takes a sympathy grab, so many others have theirs to compare--or beat.

We all lose people. It happens. Why post this crap on a sports blog? You that lonely?

And it's not "cathartic" either. It's just plain pathetic.

mgobleu

May 5th, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^

Getting dusty in here...sounds like about every one of you in here has been dealing with some hard grief. Whether any of you are religious or not I'm lifting prayers for you.

JayMo4

May 5th, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^

I strongly encourage you to find someone close to you that you can really talk about this with.  I think it's great that we have a close enough community that posters are showing support, and I'd definitely like to send my condolences as well.  I've lost friends to similar circumstances, and it feels like a part of your soul has been stolen from you.  In those times, it has made a huge difference to me to have a couple close friends and relatives there for support.

sadeto

May 5th, 2016 at 9:58 AM ^

I'm sorry for your loss and the pain you are feeling now. I'm glad you're connecting with old friends you shared with him, I think it will help you heal. 

Losing friends to such self-destruction is awful. I've had 4 childhood friends commit suicide under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, 3 of them with guns, 2 in a murder suicide pact in high school, 2 in their 40's - depressed, relatively successful middle-aged men who thought they were failures. It will eat at you if you don't find a way to deal with it. 

 

bringthewood

May 5th, 2016 at 4:35 PM ^

One man's opinion. Both my parents are long dead and my father-in-law died last year. One was sudden and others were hospice - so plenty of time to prepare. All I can suggest is to try to focus on the good times and good memories. Sadness begets more sadness. If when you are feeling down you can bring up a particularily fun, fond and positive memory use that to chase the grief, try to focus on the fun and positive. It works for me.

The Mad Hatter

May 5th, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^

I really have nothing to offer other than my deepest sympathies to the OP and everyone else in the thread dealing with illness and death.

Let me know if you need someone to make inappropriate and offensive death jokes to lighten the mood.  I'm great at that!

Everyone Murders

May 5th, 2016 at 12:31 PM ^

There are many nice things about this thread.  One of them is having people who generally make cheap jokes for the easy laugh* set that aside for a moment. 

Another nice thing about this thread is that people with booze/beer avatars or utterly-inappropriate user names** weighing in.  For those new to the board it must be quite a spectacle!  But to those of us who have been on the board awhile, it makes perfect sense.

*Looks in mirror, adjusts tie.

**Looks in mirror again, starts to adjust tie, but really - with that dimple - it's just about perfect.

MGoBrewMom

May 5th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^

No great advice from me, other than let yourself feel what you feel, and hopefully you start to have some warmth and smiles from the good memories. There's no way it won't forever hurt, or make sense. But hopefully with time and being with others who loved him, it might help. It's screwed up to loose people young. My family is in serious mourning too over the loss of my 21 y.o cousin who died suddenly from (we think) complications of an epileptic seizure, and just two years ago another 21 y.o. cousin died from a drunk/texting driver. Both of these kids were happy, loving and bright lights to all that came in contact with them. So, it's just tough to believe when that light is gone. But they do live on in those that they touched, as you do for your friend, and the others in this post will with their losses. It's tough to recover from that stuff--but everybody handles it differently. Addiction is a shitty thing, and so many times we can see their potential from the outside, and that makes it even tougher. I feel your pain, and hope you can find some peace and comfort. Sincerest sympathy to you.

UM Fan from Sydney

May 5th, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

My dad was diagnosed with stage one bladder cancer about a year ago, but it seems (for now) he has defeated it. There were four really small tumors found on his bladder - two were malignant and the other two not. It was a simple operation to remove them. Now he goes for checks every so often to make sure it has not returned. After doing some research, bladder cancer is one of the most treatable types (especially if caught early, which is was), so we were all fairly optimistic.

Then about six months back, my mother was diagnosed with stage zero or one (I forget which) skin cancer on her nose. There was this really small (smaller than a pimple) section on the tip of her nose that was cancerous, but that is also a really simply operation. So, it seems (for now) that she is clear of that. Obviously she is doing her checks with doctors every so often, too.

What the hell are the chances of both parents' getting cancer? It's just like a slap to the face. Thankfully they were both caught early and are fairly treatable, but there is always the chance the cancer could come back.

DOBlue48

May 5th, 2016 at 10:21 AM ^

I am here to tell you that the chances of both your parents getting cancer are probably higher that you would ever guess.

How's my family tree looking?  Dad (Multiple Myeloma took his life), Mom (numerous minor skin cancers), wife (Breast Cancer), Brother (Kidney Cancer), Sister-In-Law (cervical)

Cancer is all around you, mate.  And I despise it.

 

UM Fan from Sydney

May 5th, 2016 at 10:37 AM ^

It's crazy that no cure is available for any form of cancer. While people can be cured with treatment, there is no magic cure that is a guarantee. The conspiracy guy in me says there is a cure for at least some cancer forms, but the government keeps them secret. As awful as this sounds, terminal diseases are a form of population control. The world has only so much space.



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CarrIsMyHomeboy

May 5th, 2016 at 10:40 AM ^

With all due respect, I think you vastly underestimate the complexities of cancer. There can never be a universal "cure for cancer." With much more time and research, the best we can hope for is "twenty thousand cures for twenty thousand cancers."

MileHighWolverine

May 5th, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^

There is a lot of research suggesting that over the next 10-15 years medical science will progress to the point that Cancer will no longer be the automatic death sentence it's been in the past. It will be more of a chronic issue people will need to treat for the rest of their lives but won't be what kills them.

DOBlue48

May 5th, 2016 at 10:21 AM ^

I am here to tell you that the chances of both your parents getting cancer are probably higher that you would ever guess.

How's my family tree looking?  Dad (Multiple Myeloma took his life), Mom (numerous minor skin cancers), wife (Breast Cancer), Brother (Kidney Cancer), Sister-In-Law (cervical)

Cancer is all around you, mate.  And I despise it.

 

UMgradMSUdad

May 5th, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^

It might not be all that unusual for both parents to get cancer.  Both of mine did.  My mother was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2001 and died 9 months later.  She was just 65 years old and otherwise in excellent health.  My father survived gall bladder cancer but 10 years after that went into remission he developed stomach cancer.  By then altzeimer's was already taking a heavy toll, and we were at a point where he would have had to go to a nursing home.  At age 81, it was his time.

 

DOBlue48

May 5th, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^

Profound condolences DB, you too are not alone.

I am one of the rare individuals who has lost both a child (many years ago) and a parent (last summer).  Each loss was profound and life altering.  However, some losses are much more difficult, if not impossible, to rationalize. 

I have given up asking why.  There are no answers.  Rather, I have tried to embrace my experiences with those no longer with me with the full intention of taking part of that person with me everywhere I go.  This is a process, and not likely for everyone, but it has served me well.

In the short term, words will help and time does aid your healing process.  You may never fully come to grips with the timing of your friends passing.  Let that fuel your life as it is quite possible your experiences with your friend will provide you with some wisdom that may help change a life in the future.  What an awesome tribute that would be.

 

MichiganTeacher

May 5th, 2016 at 10:17 AM ^

So sorry to hear about all the loss in this thread.

I've got nothing else. Just feeling for you all. So sad.

GoBlueinMN

May 5th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^

My mother passed away at 63 from liver failure due to alcoholism about 4 years ago. Liver failure is a really awful way to die. The pain doesn't ever go away, it just fades from time to time.

My father-in-law has been battling cancer and heart issues for about 10 years now as well and just recently learned his lymphoma has returned.

Kevin13

May 5th, 2016 at 10:44 AM ^

as loosing a loved one is always tough. This past Tuesday marked the 3rd anniversary of my mom's passing and all I can tell you is it never gets easy, but you learn to live with the pain and move foward one day at a time.

You still have a lot to live for in your life and you need to find a way to continue, even if there is a pain in the heart.

ScruffyTheJanitor

May 5th, 2016 at 10:45 AM ^

I had a rough life growing up and I have lost a few on the way. I have come to realize that "getting over" certain things just doesn't really happen, or at least not in the way it sounds. There is no point when you will wake up and be fine with it. Memories of that person will always sting; what is really depressing is that the memories become less frequent as time passes. 

You don't get over tragedies as much as you carry them with you; they can either be a burden or they can inspire you to be more appreciative, revel in the simple joys, and try to make the world a little better.

translator82

May 5th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^

Unfortunately as I write this, a fellow Michigan classmate is burying his mother who died six weeks after going to the hospital for what was thought to be severe back pain but ended up being metastasized liver cancer. 

To me, the toughest part of dealing with the death of a loved one is the grieving process. In 1999-2000 while I was in my final two years of high school, my family lost a cousin who died in a freak car wreck near Flint and left behind a wife and an infant son and two close family friends (one to Leukemia, one to suicide due to mental illness that he hid very well from almost everyone). 

That second-semester junior year was awful as the cousin died just a few weeks into the term and instead of just taking the day off for the funeral and going back to school the next day to eventually flunk an AP Macro Economics exam, I should have just taken the week off to grieve properly. The twat AP Econ teacher didn't help things either as he pretty much told me "too bad" about my circumstances. 

Thoughts and prayers to everyone on their losses...cancer sucks. Addiction sucks. Depression sucks.