OT: Dealing With Loss of a Loved One
Fellow MGoFriends,
A little over 2 weeks ago I lost one of the best friends I've ever had. He was 33 years old and died due to liver failure from too many years of excessive drinking and drug use.
This guy was easily the most talented (artistically speaking) person I've ever met. Incredible tattoo artist and an amazing painter. I've had a painting he painted for me hanging on my wall in my bedroom for about 4 years now.
He was also way too goddamn smart to die like he did. Basically he killed himself.
I've s pent the last couple of weeks moping around not really sure how to cope with the grief. That's part of the reason I'm posting this now. Putting things in to words seems to make me feel better.
If you have a loved one who has a problem with addiction, talk to them, let them know that you love them. Let them know that you will have their back no matter what. Mostly let them know that they aren't alone.
Thanks for allowing me to get this off my chest. If its too much feel free to delete it.
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I like these comments and your ideas. Life is just strife and struggle when you come down to it and its just a huge mysterious paradox. But, it's an unbelievable miracle and is full of beautiful moments. I've been blessed to experience more of these than I can count. You just have to live life and love everyone around you. That's how you deal with all these questions. It's the only answer.
And as your man Prince said - 'I'm here to tell ya, there's something else - the afterworld...in this life things are much harder than in the afterworld. This life - you're on your own.'
I just hope that for everyone who lost someone that they're at peace now. My condolences to everyone here. God bless and keep your head up.
In hindsight, it really was amazing all she was able to do during that time knowing that her body was riddled with cancer.
She was 52 when she died and we have missed her at every family even since her passing.
Lesson: A day of discomfort for a colonoscopy is not nearly as bad as losing your life to cancer.
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My dad was murdered on Christmas Eve when I was 8. My sister never recovered.
My sister died of a heroin overdose in 2013. My mom never recovered.
You just do the best you can do and take life one breath at a time most days. You try to go easy on people and on yourself and you try to love people with all you got. You do a lot of car crying. You listen to Springsteen. A lot. On days where there are no words, there's aways Springsteen.
Stay in the light, my friends. xo
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those hurt. like many here, i could list an unfortunate amount of dear ones who passed away, from my mom when we were kids, to guys i worked with in our former line of work, to ones you expect such as grand parents. i have two things i'd mention that may provide some solace to you:
1. losing people is like getting a vicious bruise, the worst you ever had. it hurts like nothing you've ever known, and somehow it actually gets worse for a period of time. you don't want to use the limb/part that got wacked for a long time. but what happens is that after a while the bruise doesn't hurt quite as much. it doesn't throb 24 hours/day, it loses some of it's color. then one day you'll forget that you had the bruise for a bit, mabye only 15 minutes. but then you'll forget about another day for hours. and so on. you won't ever forget the bruise, you won't forget the hurt, but the sharpness of the pain does dissapate eventually. hopefully soon for you.
2. life is for the living, get after it. moping will do no good and your buddy would not want that. if you are a person of faith there can be substantial help there too. when i have been faced with these times i worked very hard, and i exercised very hard, and by the time the end of the day came i was tired and slept. and i did that again and again. no drugs, no booze. just hard work and exercise.
blessings to you down there in cadillac.
XM
This thead is heartbreaking, but I'm glad it was posted.
It's nice to know people are more than avatars sometimes, even though I wish you all would remain nameless and happy instead.
Thank you for posting this. Its things like this that remind us that the game of football, getting high prized recruits, beating OSU, are insignificant little specks of nothingness compared to what we really deal with in every day life.
My fiance has a coworker who has lost her best friend and almost lost another all in the last month. Never take those close to you for granted. You never know when and if the day will come when you wake up and its all gone.
My cousin passed away from the same thing, liver failure from too much drinking in college. And I totally agree, dont be afraid to speak up...I wish i had. He passed the same day as my wifes baby shower...i will never forget it. He wasnt a cousin to me but a brother...life is tough, loved the ones you are with and dont take anything for granted.
Stay up and remember the good times.
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My thoughts on this thread are mostly outside the scope of this board (note my occupation), so I have little helpful to add, though I have prayed for some of the people mentioned here. Death is a part of life, but it is also a universal source of grief and suffering for those who survive others.
And it can be a part of the human experience that helps others find common ground with people very different than them, as I've seen here. I appreciate people sharing difficult stories here.
Darker Blue, I'm sorry at your great loss. Thank you for posting this. So many of the responses are tremendously touching.
I'm a pastor, and as such, I have been around death quite a bit. Still, I don't give much advice, but here is a little bit.
- Everyone is different. We don't quite know how we'll deal with the death of someone until we get there, and even how we deal with the death of different people we are close to. My point is, we all need to be patient and compassionate with each other, and remember that there is no one right way to grieve, no right amount of time. Grieve the way you need to, and take the time you need to. And let other people do the same.
- I really echo those who say, tell your friends that you love them. I'd expand this just a bit. Whether or not someone is struggling with depression or substance abuse, whether you are really close to them or just a friend, don't wait to share what's on your heart, and to ask questions, and to communicate something that needs to be communicated. I have seen too much sadness when people don't take the time to express something, whether to their parents, their children, their siblings, or others, and then that window closes. I think one of the biggest issues I've seen is when there is a broken relationship where there needs to be forgiveness and healing and reconciliation, and it is put off, and then it never happens. Sometimes, we need to get over ourselves and ask others to forgive us.
- It has been said before that it is much harder to bury a child than a parent. I don't know that I agree. I've come to see that when you love someone, it doesn't matter how old they are. You love them, and you will miss them, no matter how old they are. But I will say, when you love someone, love them enough to let them go, and to die in peace, when it is time to die. I sometimes have seen the living hang on too fiercely to those who need permission to let go and to die. This is irrelevant to the original post, but it happens a bit too often. When a parent is at the end of their life, it is ok to say, "I love you so much, but when the time comes and you're ready to take the final journey, go in peace."
Thanks again for the original post. I heartily support this kind of thing going up.
EDIT: A bit humorous and ironic that two of the pastors on the board posted back to back.
BTW on point three, I have not lost a child but I have lost a parent, and my experience (which I had time to prepare for and expect) suggests to me that it would be far more difficult to lose one of my children. Part of the issue is the expectation that our children will outlive us, our own hope for their futures.
Also, because any bad thing that happens to my kids I would rather have happen to me.
right?
Yes, but that's just for the first week. There are restrictions that go beyond that.
As I stated in an earlier post. I have lost a child and also my father. Reconciling the loss of my father was much easier than the loss of my son.
The loss was great in both cases but my Dad had fought his fight and lived a good long life and was facing a future of diminishing physical and mental capabilities. I found solace in the fact that his struggle was over.
Not the case with my son. Enough said.
I personally would struggle more with the loss of a child. My main point is that everyone is different. I think that for MOST people, the death of a child is harder. But I've learned not to go from what is generally true to assume it is always true. I've seen some people completely and totally broken up by the death of a parent. You never know.
If I was to generalize, I would say that at some age (75? 80? 85?) you have had the opportunity to live a good and full life, and the time to experience many things. When a child dies, a child with so much potential, the grief is very difficult. Same thing for a child in their 20's or 30's or 40's. At some point after that, it is still hard, but not quite as hard. The one child caveat is that I never know how someone will deal with miscarriage or still birth. My own wife miscarried, and we were ok with it. On the other hand, the death of any of my 3 children, or my wife, would be so much more difficult. My father is 89, and in very good health. I cherish time with him, but we're both at peace with the fact that the day will come to say goodbye.
My wife had two miscarriages, and it was very hard, but not on the scale of losing a child whom we had met and held an intellectual relationship with. Still, quite bad.
A late-term stillbirth, of a baby who would be healthy if born that very day or week, is much worse. I worked admitting for L&D for three years in California, and the days that happened (three when I was there) are etched in memory. They were awful, awful days for every person there, much less the family suffering the loss.
As many have noted, there is not a linear formula for "handling" grief. There are stages that we all go through, cycle through, repeat, skip, etc but everyone handles it differently.
I am someone who finds solace through inward thought and contemplation. Going through true loss in my life taught me that even people like me need an outlet during the most difficult times.
It doesn't matter who (family member, friend, co-worker, therapist), but I highly encourage everyone working through grief and loss to find their outlet.
If you are not one for professional therapy and can not find an outlet, I encourge you to look into the Stephen Ministry program. It is a wonderful program to help people suffering through loss and grief.
I'm not trying to push religious beliefs, simply wanting to share a resource for those who may need it and not be aware.
What a strange thing for me to see on here given what Im going through myself..
around a month ago my grandma passed away unexpectedly which has been tough for the whole family.
Regarding the addictions your friend was battling im very sorry to hear that about him. I've been dealing with my own addiction demons the last ten years ( im 28 ) and tomorrow until sunday I plan to take part in an ayahuasca ceremony down in kentucky at a church where its legal. I had never really heard about ayahuasca until a few months ago. Apparently its amazing from people battling addiction, so im hoping it can heal me.
Also if anyone hasnt heard about Ibogaine / Iboga for addictions or most mental illness's I urge you to do a quick google search on it. Its curing the worst kinds of drug addicts after one session. If anyone has any experience with ayahuasca or Iboga im sure it could be helpful for many others including me to hear about it. I considered making it a topic but wasnt sure at the time but now maybe I will.
I'm sorry for everyone's losses here. One of my best friends died in a car accident when we were both 22, shortly after we graduated. I did not feel "normal" again for 3 full years afterwards. The first year I was in shambles. Couldn't sleep with the light off for probably 3 months out of that first year. I don't think you ever truly get over a traumatic death. It just becomes part of who you are, and you incorporate it into a new way of living.
step. Not that you know us here on the blog from Adam there are a lot of good people here that will read what you write and respond. Like you said, typing it out seems to help. I'm sorry for your loss as well as those who knew him; 33 is way, way to young to die...
From a grumpy dude, ill be nicer this weekend and be sure to tell people i love them. Never know how long theyll be here.
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