OSU fans calling for Urban to return. Does OSU do the unthinkable?
I've been enjoying my fair share of schadenfreude after yesterday's game. But I'm seeing a lot of comments under articles/videos/tweets from bucknuts saying that they should bring Urban back, that Urban served his time, or that Urban did nothing wrong in the first place.
I think it's insane to say that Day may be on any kind of hot seat, but no other school has the luxury of a multi time national championship just waiting around for a phone call. We've also seen that colleges, have zero shame anymore about hiring troubled coaches (Lane Kiffin, Sark, Hugh Freeze, etc).
Do you think OSU is desperate enough to consider selling their soal and bringing back Urbz if Day doesn't win the big ten next year?
November 27th, 2022 at 7:37 AM ^
They sold their soul already. Can they get an IOU for another one?
November 27th, 2022 at 8:28 AM ^
Not looking so good for them at this point, because I think Satan just came around to collect.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:55 AM ^
What will happen when recruits’ moms are sent the Urban shocker video?
November 27th, 2022 at 7:38 AM ^
45-5 but with a little John Cooper in him. The fans will be restless until they win The Game. An 11-0 start next season is still not enough to get him back into the good graces of the Buckeye fan base. So beautiful, isn't it?
November 27th, 2022 at 8:15 AM ^
When 40% of your losses as head coach at Ohio State are to your biggest rival, people are going to start asking questions. Especially when those two losses directly prevent you from winning the big ten and (possibly) prevent you from making the playoff.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:39 AM ^
Day won't be in trouble until he loses next year, which is looking increasingly likely
November 27th, 2022 at 8:30 AM ^
That sums it up. Ohio has run out of excused for losing. We beat them in good weather, bad weather, at home and now at their house. It doesn't get any better for us.
I haven't heard it yet but their #1 excuse for losing this year would be the injuries on their roster. So, Michigan played without Blake Corum, less two plays, Mike Morris was unavailable. Schoonmaker had limited throws his way and Donovan played with one hand.
And yes, Ohio was outcoached yesterday by a big margin by Harbaugh and his staff, kudos to JH!
November 27th, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^
…not to mention our All-American tight end, Erick All!
November 27th, 2022 at 7:40 AM ^
Would they go back to Meyer or give Fickell a shot?
November 27th, 2022 at 8:01 AM ^
I like Fickell's record against UM as HC. :) It will be hard for buckeye fans to get behind Fickell without doubts creeping in.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:28 AM ^
I think Fickell's "record" gets a small asterisk.
I wouldn't say I fear Fickell but I think he'd be a good fit for the culture and he's done a good job at Cinci of finding and developing players (not just "Sauce" Gardner) from the three-star pile. That suggests he might be able to pick the good ones from the better (four-, five-star) piles.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:43 AM ^
They need to get Mattison back, bent-not-broken. Brilliant!
Seriously, even a non football person such as myself was shocked how bad OSU’s defense was.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:48 AM ^
First of all, fuck Greg Mattison.
Second, he's like 85 years old now and was the Co-DC with Coombs
November 27th, 2022 at 8:03 AM ^
Yeah. Fuck that traitor.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:10 AM ^
I hate that mother fucking bastard more than any other person in college football coaching! That speaks volumes considering that the group includes deeantonio, urban liar, sweater vest, dabo, satan.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:43 AM ^
Bring him back, it'd be nice to rub his nose in it too.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:03 AM ^
I doubt Urban does well in this NIL/Transfer portal world.
All his under the table dealings are rendered moot.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:14 AM ^
I don’t think that this can be understated. Alabama looks like the worst they have been in a decade. Clemson’s crumbling has been even faster. OSU likely out of the playoff again. Obviously remains to be seen if this continues, but NIL actually might bring a little parity to the top of CFB.
November 28th, 2022 at 7:14 AM ^
It also plays into the hands of someone who has succeeded at the NFL level because now college football isn't predicated on raw talent but is about managing players and a season.
and moving to a twelve team playoff is going to make it even moreso.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:15 AM ^
Not to mention his creepy moves in the under carriage.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:30 AM ^
I haven't seen anyone really discuss if Urban would even really be successful in today's CFB. No under the table payment. His running QB offenses is kinda out of date. CFB has changed
November 27th, 2022 at 11:20 AM ^
He seemed to be getting figured out already while he was still at OSU. Don Brown came in and pretty much had them stopped, but UM still couldn't get over their OSU mental block back then. Clemson destroyed them in the CFP. He had to bring in Day to help the offense.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:45 AM ^
I don't think so. First, OSU's administration isn't run by the children who post on 11w. Second, Day has won 90% of his games. He's not getting fired, at least not this year.
So another year passes, and Urban is another year older. He's already probably past his prime and he's not getting younger.
My guess is they're keeping Fickell in their back pocket in case they need to jettison Day, and the fact that Fickell didn't jump to a P5 job last year is proof (to me) that he's mutually waiting for the OSU job.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:55 AM ^
Hell of a risk for Fickell to take though. Ryan Day is 6 years younger, and there’s no guarantee he ever wants to leave. We kicked around the idea of him going to the Bears and reuniting with Justin Fields before The Game last year, but there’s no indication Day is seriously considering a jump to the NFL.
Assuming he is, I could maybe see a scenario where Day jumps to the NFL in January/February, then Fickell jumps over. Even in that case, I don’t think Meyer comes back even as a 1 year interim coach/stopgap.
I think there’s zero chance OSU fires Ryan Day, even if they get blown out in the Rose Bowl.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
Beating the Water Boy repeatedly would also be quite gratifying
November 27th, 2022 at 8:33 AM ^
you have to think that Day’s stork with NFL has tanked already.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
Urban may get the old band back together. Zach Smith is probably unemployed.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:12 AM ^
....but they'll need to reactivate his Amazon Prime membership.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:45 AM ^
They arent rehiring Urban after what all went down.
But we talk so much about Michigan Man this here, looks like OSU fans are realizing they need an Ohio Man, someone born in Ohio, to lead them to understand the rivalry.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:18 AM ^
An Ohio Man - I feel like that’s exactly what urban Meyer is. I mean that in the least flattering way possible.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:34 AM ^
NSFMF. You do remember that tOsu made Meyer a professor teaching “Integrity” after all that went down, right? They don’t even acknowledge that he did anything wrong and hail him as a hero.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:46 AM ^
I'm sure their fan base would do unspeakable things to get Urban to come back. They got a taste of losing to their rival twice in two years. Twice is all it took to have them lose their minds and implode.
The question is: Would Urban even want to? What does he have to gain at this point?
If I'm Urban I'd either stay retired or potentially only come back if a job like Texas comes to the table where the recruiting ground is absolutely oversaturated with football talent and stud athletes. It would really only take one good coach to instantly become a savior over there whereas OSU he's already proven how capable he was there.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:50 AM ^
We could hire Day to show players what bad facial hair looks like in the NIL era.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:19 AM ^
An interesting strategy - but a lesson that could be readily taught to young men!
November 27th, 2022 at 8:19 AM ^
An interesting strategy - but a lesson that could be readily taught to young men!
November 27th, 2022 at 7:53 AM ^
I vote Ohio State fans endure 15 years of bottomless sorrow like we did.
I will say though, those 15 years made yesterday that much sweeter. Got to watch with a roommate from college whom I've watched far too many losses with.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:20 AM ^
I will say though, those 15 years made yesterday that much sweeter
This is why the last two Games have been life changing!
November 27th, 2022 at 9:47 AM ^
My son is a year and a half old and knows nothing but dominance over OSU!
November 27th, 2022 at 7:54 AM ^
No, the school would never hire him back, but the fans constantly wishing they would and simultaneously making Day's life miserable... Well, that's just, just, too delicious for words.
Every visit to Columbus by the Fox pregame show next season will be filled with those dumb "we want Urban" chants. Glorious!
November 27th, 2022 at 8:37 AM ^
Fox isn't carrying the Big Ten next season, CBS is, which means a return to Gary Danielson from his days doing all our games on ABC. Not so sure I will like that either.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:53 AM ^
I believe Fox, NBC & CBS are all carrying B1G games next year and that Fox has the "A" slate so I would expect a lot of Michigan and OSU on there
November 27th, 2022 at 9:25 AM ^
Just make Gus & Joel the official commentary team for Michigan football games.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:58 AM ^
This is wrong on so many levels.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:08 AM ^
CBS B1G contract starts in 2024.
November 27th, 2022 at 7:56 AM ^
Can’t say all the blame of was Day’s, but he did hire Knowles. Every mention of their defense all year was the individuals; Tommy two thumbs, et al. But their defense on the whole was what gave me hope this year and it played out.
Knowles sold out for the run the entire game; not a bad strategy for Michigan, but after Corum clearly couldn’t go and Edwards wasn’t himself with that hand, he could’ve adjusted, likely still got pressure on McCarthy and held a safety back but he literally played the “DON’T bend, Break” defense, got burned, and still stuck to it.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:12 AM ^
And to have Urban basically spend the entirety of halftime saying that defensive approach just wasn’t necessary or worth the risk because of the game was playing out. I mean, Day basically got out coached twice: by Michigan on the field and by Urban on National TV.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:20 AM ^
yeah Urban's such a genius. Just look at his prediction for the Game.
If Urban is wise, he'll never set foot into this rivalry again. He got more than lucky in 2016; he was outcoached again in 2017; he lucked into a Don Brown slayer and rode it to 2018; now, he gets to sit back and avoid getting his ass beaten because we've figured out the Don Brown slayer.
Long story short, fuck that guy.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:28 AM ^
That 2017 game was frustrating on more levels than I think we’d care to dive in to right now, but you’re 100% right. Harbaugh & Co. took a 3rd string QB and with 2:30 left in the game, were down only 4. They put together a masterful game plan, only to see the likes of Metellus and O’Korn fail to execute even basic plays. Then the Don Bown nightmares of 2018 and 2019 drove us deeper into despair.
Fox and Urban Meyer can continue to beat that 7-0 record against UM drum all they want, because it’s true and there’s nothing that can be done about it. But we know the truth. He started out in 2012 beating an Al Borges 2nd half game plan that left everyone scratching their damn heads, then barely held on to an outmatched UM team the next year only because Al Borges couldn’t come up with a different 2 point play after the timeout. Urban Meyer never needed to coach his team to victory the way Harbaugh’s done the last two years, where they were ~15 point combined underdogs and won by a combined 37 points.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:13 AM ^
Exactly this. The only way UM was gonna win yesterday was with big plays, Knowles had as bad a day coaching as you can have.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
And for literally no reason. That’s the thing that makes the coaching mistakes so egregiously bad. Ohio State just didn’t need to do that to win that game. It was arrogance at its finest. They had a plan and they just weren’t going to deviate from that plan because they thought they were so superior that they could just will it to work.