TV Teddy Snowflakes Thread
Well, that was rough. Teddy Valentine, notorious thunderdouche, completely controlled that game. Ticky tack fouls resulted in insurmountable foul trouble for a number of M players. It's just a bad look for the Big Ten to have officiating this poor seemingly everytime a team travels outside of their home court. Wow.
Obligitory "make your free throws and box out" wins the game observation here. You could very easily argue that we did not deserve to win this game, but what you can't argue is that we deserved to get a hell of a lot better officiating than we did.
^In short, this dude can suck it.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:39 PM ^
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^
I'm finding it hard to take college basketball seriously after watching games like this. I have no words for what occurred out there. It was a travesty.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:15 PM ^
My thought as well. Is there a more incompetent commish in sports? Maybe Goodell, but not by much. I despise Delaney.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^
No words to describe that debacle. Foul on Rahk on the sideline as Minny threw the ball out of bounds? The worst call ever.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^
February 20th, 2017 at 11:15 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:40 PM ^
B1G doesnt care.
They hire Ohio State fans to officiate our games and re-hire this asshat back to the league.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
He's not just a B1G ref, he's an NCAA ref. Not that that makes it any better.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:52 PM ^
either way, B1G won't stand up for us and I doubt the AD or coach will, either.
I hope I'm wrong about that tho.
February 20th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
February 20th, 2017 at 10:17 AM ^
you are an NCAA official. If you mean that he has been assigned to work the NCAA Tournament in the past, that is true. But when officials work in the tournament, they are usually assigned with partners with whom they otherwise never work. Teddy is Teddy. He rarely works as the lead official anymore, and wasn't last night. That crew is one of the weakest in the conference
I mean the Technical Teddy called for an assistant coach climbing the platform sideline was incredible under the circumstances because he was apparently looking for trouble. Because the apparent action that precipitated it, a simple travel when the Minnesota player tripped over himself, was part of his coverage. Not sure whether the trail or the center official made that call. But it was simply atrocious. There were so many phantom calls made based on poor angles and anticipated contact that didn't occur, like the Duncan Robinson foul on the airborne 3 point shooter that led to the other four-point play tha gave Minnesota an 8 point edge down the stretch.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^
Just gotta gut these kinds of games out on the road. Box out or hit a god damn free throw for once.
Idk.
Then you got Irvin going back to early season Irvin.
Ugh.
Even with all that shit going wrong, we should have won this game with even remotely competent officiating.
Fuck.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
Where is the accountability? How can one person be so bad at his job for so long and face zero repercussions? And why is Zak Irvin taking 13 shots in a game?
February 20th, 2017 at 8:50 AM ^
Delany puts up with an incompetent referee official program and does nothing to improve it. Look at the debacle with the OSU game football officiating - but there are many more examples. The conference has been like this for a long time though. I remember the Teddy Valentine of the 1980's - Jim Bain. He was absolutely horrible too. Yet he kept his job year after year.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:41 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^
ANY shot that Irvin takes that's not an uncontested layup IS A BAD SHOT!!! I don't care if his confidence is shot or whatever the reason, he can't shoot and he needs to stop. Seriously, someone explain to me what value he brings on the court. I'm all ears...
February 19th, 2017 at 9:59 PM ^
I've been claiming that his defense is good based on looking at opponents' guard scoring numbers, so I decided to watch him play defense in the first half. He was guarding Minnesota's 5th option. Guy only took 2 shots when Irvin was guarding him. So if you are guarding a guy who is not a threat to score, you should be providing more help defense. He didn't do anything on the boards. Guys were flying past him all game getting ORebs. If it's a choice between Duncan guarding their 5th option or Irvin, give Duncan more minutes. Beilein did sit Irvin for major minutes in the first half to the point I was wondering if the flu came back. But he played a lot in the 2nd time and reverted to lizard-brain hero-ball late in the game and it cost us.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:01 PM ^
I've never seen a player play so far below his ability. He's like the opposite of a "gamer."
February 19th, 2017 at 11:57 PM ^
He's a remag.
February 20th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^
I'm not a huge Shon Morris fan, but he was totally on point about Irvin's effort at the final rebound that ended up touching him last. That play, as much as anything caused us to have no chance in the final seconds. The team showed so much effort and grit down the stretch and Irvin torched it with a lackadaisical play.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:07 PM ^
That's a huge development in this game. The absolute butt officiating overshadowed a serious effort by this team. They put up a fight - earlier in the season they would've rolled over and let Minnesota pull away with it. They got mad - and Walton did everything he could - that's what this team needs. Let's get the rest of the games on the schedule and finish strong!
February 19th, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^
Fuck that guy.
That is all.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^
the fact that they could have still won was incredible
February 19th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^
After receiving the inbounds with 13 seconds to go, McBrayer travels. Set his feet. Then moved both of them with a hop. Then we fouled.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:01 PM ^
Indeed he did.. Also on the jump ball call before that. Guy took 3 steps and 2 hops before anyone got to him.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:36 PM ^
And don't forget the call in the first half, where Mo was dribbling and driving to the basket and called for a phantom travel.
February 20th, 2017 at 8:18 AM ^
I thought that was 2nd half. The way I remember it: Mo drives, gets pushed/hacked, traveling called. Not sure if he ever actually picked up his dribble, couldn't tell on live tv.
February 20th, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^
He beat his guy off the dribble with a behind the back dribble (that he pulled off before) and his guy kept his body into him this time (which was called a foul on Michigan whenever this happened) and neverseemed to pick up the ball. How you can get called for travel when you are dribbling was weird to me.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^
TV Teddy Valentine: The John O'Neill of college basketball
February 19th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
They stole the game from us in regulation. We did play immensely shitty in OT though.
We NEED to beat Rutgers. If we lose that game we're back on the wrong side of the bubble with three tough games left.
I still think going 2-2 down the stretch can get us in with a BTT win, as long as one of the wins is over either Purdue or Northwestern.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:48 PM ^
And I have all the confidence that we will beat them pretty easily, we shouldn't be in the tournament. We'll take care of them.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:01 PM ^
where we got outrebounded 42-24. Need to fix the rebounding. I thought we did with DJ at the 4. He got 7 rebounds tonight, but i think they were all easy ones off of Minnesota FT misses.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:45 PM ^
but his guy got 15 boards
February 19th, 2017 at 9:54 PM ^
Nah, this feels more like that Wisconsin game where we lost on the half-court shot. We know it's a fluke and should bounce back.
Gotta beat Rutgers though.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:46 PM ^
To have officiating make such a big difference. I guarantee no one from minny is complaining. Yes, if Walton hadn't forgotten he's the second best FT shooter in the conference or if MAAR didn't think he had to follow his idol at the line, or if Irvin didn't try to be a hero in OT when his shot is the POOREST on the team, we still would have won the game. But freaking valentine made the uphill climb so much harder.
Still gotta hand it to the team. Down 8 after the effed up technical and foul on the 3 pointer. Boys fought back and DJ provided some magic. Let's face it, these were two average teams competing hard tonight. One or both will make it into the dance and probably be one and done. But the guys showed heart on the road.
I can't see why Robinson doesn't start ahead of Irvin. They both are weak defenders but Robinson is a lot smarter and has an actual jump shot. Irvin is killing this team.
We're not dead yet.
GO BLUE!!
February 19th, 2017 at 10:04 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:46 PM ^
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
No checks and balances when it comes to refs, especially in basketball. They should get grades and reviewed after each game, on missed calls, bad calls, and should be sent to unbias places (if you're from Ohio and are a fan of Oho State, go officiate a West Virginia vs Maryland game then).
February 19th, 2017 at 9:47 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:02 PM ^
Poor guy had to sit through that in person
February 19th, 2017 at 9:47 PM ^