JJ's Promise After the TCU Game
Surprised no one has brought this up yet. Looking back at this now, this was a "Tebow" moment.
December 4th, 2023 at 9:57 PM ^
+1 for bringing up JJ
-1 for bringing up Tebow
Net: 0
December 4th, 2023 at 10:00 PM ^
Agreed, do not associate our beloved JJ with that ass clown tim tebow.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:30 PM ^
Is it the national championships, the Heisman trophy or the missions work you don't wish JJ to be associated with?
December 4th, 2023 at 10:56 PM ^
I assumed it was the lifetime .223 batting average
December 5th, 2023 at 1:09 AM ^
I associate him with Urban Meyer. thats enough for me
December 5th, 2023 at 2:08 AM ^
Ah yes, of course those are the only things one could think of when they think of Tebow.
December 5th, 2023 at 7:24 AM ^
Not sure about everyone else, but his exuberant child genital mutilation fetish comes to mind
December 5th, 2023 at 8:27 AM ^
Whoa wut ?
December 5th, 2023 at 10:27 AM ^
Apologies if the hyperbole was taken literally. Thought this was common knowledge;
December 5th, 2023 at 11:33 AM ^
Wow. Calling circumcision "child mutilation" is beyond hyperbole and enters into the world of "creating labels because it makes a story I'm trying to manufacture sound better." Put aside that whole matter, you do realize that circumcision can reduce the spread of HIV and other STD's on the order of magnitude of approx 50%?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/factsheets/MC-for-HIV-Prevention-Fact-Sheet_508.pdf
December 5th, 2023 at 4:40 PM ^
I knew there was a good reason I've stayed clean. Cut helmets do the trick.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:07 PM ^
I would love for JJ to be a two time National Champion and a Heisman trophy winner. Sorry I’m weird like that
December 4th, 2023 at 10:12 PM ^
I don’t understand the Tebow hate
He seems like a genuinely good guy.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:14 PM ^
its particularly interesting in this context since its likely mccarthy is a tebow admirer
December 4th, 2023 at 10:48 PM ^
Maybe because he played for Urban Meyer. But that doesn't change my opinion. I always liked Tim Tebow. Humble and gracious and he was an incredible college football player.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:01 PM ^
For me, he seemed extremely disingenuous (or possibly mendacious) while he was at UF. I was probably just associating him with a team and program with rampant issues. After witnessing his life’s work since, I could not have been more wrong.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:55 PM ^
He’s a Christian. White liberals generally loath Christians and especially white Christians for reasons that are understandable and not so understandable. POC don’t seem to have the same level of animosity towards Tebow as white liberals do. Interesting sociological observation.
I’m agnostic and while I found the Tebow mania grating I honestly respect the guy because he seems to live the principles he espouses. He seems authentic.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:19 PM ^
I always liked Tebow - he was genuine.
One of my favorite NFL stats - Tebow is the ONLY Broncos QB ever who won a playoff game with them and was also drafted by them.
(for the record, the Lions have ZERO QBs ever that fit this stat)
December 5th, 2023 at 5:46 AM ^
WOW! That is an amazing statistic. Once again, suggesting one of the last jobs I would really want my name on is guy in charge of an NFL draft. (Recommendation: Draft by chalk with slight adjustment for need.)
December 4th, 2023 at 11:26 PM ^
Not sure what race has to do with it, but many non-religious people are put off by public displays and expressions of faith, whether it be kneeling after touchdowns or the obligatory post-game praise and thanking of God.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:32 PM ^
White liberals/left wingers are overwhelmingly the most hostile towards overt displays of religion. Like it’s not even close.
Black, Arab, and Hispanics tend to be more religious than whites in general. A lot of history at play there.
December 5th, 2023 at 9:15 AM ^
Do you have any sources to back this up? On its face, it seems true, but I'd like to see the data on white conservative hostility towards, say, public Muslim prayer.
I'd bet there would be some interesting cross-tabs.
December 5th, 2023 at 9:44 AM ^
White conservatives are absolutely more hostile to Muslims and other non-Christians than white liberals. Not even close.
I’m just saying that white liberals tend to be more virulently secular and anti-Christianity than POC.
December 5th, 2023 at 5:55 AM ^
Michigan isn't the best team for those types. Half our team has a cross or Jesus tattoo or a cross necklace.
Our coaches and players thank God half the time they're interviewed after games.
December 5th, 2023 at 6:12 AM ^
Yes, Harbaugh even gave thanks to Jesus Christ in his post game speech Saturday.
December 5th, 2023 at 7:28 AM ^
It’s a fine line between thanking god and putting on a performative display. Tebow strikes me as the latter.
Why? Here’s one way to look at it: Harbaugh and co. invoke love more than anything else and they talk about each other. This lines up with what is commanded above all in the gospel. Tebow talks about his faith and makes it all about himself, like he was wearing a brand. We are instructed to judge righteously and identify the proverbial trees by their fruits, it is fair to draw this line and call a charlatan a charlatan. Let us also be understanding and realize Tebow is a product of his time and place, and hope that he can become more humble and sincere as he grows.
December 5th, 2023 at 7:51 AM ^
Tebow is spending a lot of time publicly fighting against human sex trafficking. If that is performative display, bully for him.
December 5th, 2023 at 7:58 AM ^
I hope he is sincere and successful in his purported mission, and not replicating a Tim Ballard-style grift.
December 5th, 2023 at 12:06 PM ^
Good for him. I mean that. Sex trafficking is on par with slavery as one of the Great Evils humans are capable of.
I'm curious, though, whether Tim has weighed in on the Catholic Church's horrific record of aiding and abetting child sex trafficking by its clergy.
December 5th, 2023 at 10:28 AM ^
I guess I don't know Tim Tebow well enough to judge him as insincere.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:33 PM ^
Although I wouldn’t group Tim Tebow with this, I think it’s worth pointing out that people are more alarmed by the significant rise of Christian Nationalism in recent years.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:55 PM ^
The hostility existed before the more recent rise of Christian nationalism although that has certainly exacerbated tensions significantly. Reasons are complex and varied IMO.
Leftist politics have tended to be irreligious and/or openly hostile to religion since the time of Thomas Paine and the French Revolution. Feminists, gay rights advocates, Jews… have had to battle white Christian hostility towards them for centuries. All of those groups make up a large portion of leftist politics. Marxists intrinsically are hostile to religion. Marx obviously being a massive influence on left wing thought.
Christianity has for over 1000 years been the central part of the social, philosophical, and governing of Western societies. As a result all of the wrongs that these societies have committed, regardless of how universal the behavior is, is associated with Christianity. Few associate the advancements of Western societies with Christianity. Instead they point to other reasons like science and mathematics.
(People blame religion for all the bad while ignoring that humans did like things before organized religion was ever conceived of or in places where there is no organized faith.)
Religion is seen as a barrier to liberty, justice, and knowledge. It is the antithesis of what is seen as the archetypical society in the secularist mind. There are tons of history that support this conclusion. Religion has been discredited most effectively not by it’s opponents but by it’s practitioners.
Tim Tebow may indeed be a good man. But to many he represents what they revile most—openly devout white males. His race and faith are factors in how people perceive him whether we wish to admit it or not.
December 5th, 2023 at 12:00 AM ^
Yeah, I can’t believe they added “in god we trust” to the dollar bill this year. /s
December 5th, 2023 at 8:34 AM ^
Yeah but it's not specific which god they're trusting on the dollar bill. To many people money is their god.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:36 PM ^
Typical post on your part. I’m sure you have your pedantic arguments and counter arguments all lined up for the first contradicting response.
You are loved. Way off base. But, you are so loved. Hope you can have a great day!
December 5th, 2023 at 5:55 AM ^
This Atheist Conservative doesn't like Tebow either.
December 5th, 2023 at 8:30 AM ^
For me it’s the intrusive way they go about it. “Hey guys, we’re all gonna pray to my god now. Hey we won because my god. Hey why arent you praying to my god? God this god that - you really should pray to god.” Makes you want to go: hey man, I don’t believe in your god and if you could be a little more private about that whole thing that’d be great.
December 5th, 2023 at 1:48 PM ^
Just an FYI - Harbaugh praised his "Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" on Sunday morning during an interview.
December 6th, 2023 at 9:06 AM ^
I just sent as an FYI...but I have now agreed to self-neg any negs I get on this site...getting an early start on my New Years resolution
December 5th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^
Reality is every grouping of people will have a list of things about another grouping of people that they don't like. Asking people who are different than you to only be different in their private settings so you don't have to witness it is a rather myopic view. Considered all of the things you have done in public which offended someone else without even knowing it.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:12 PM ^
Sad to see Marlee leaving WoodTV8.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:19 PM ^
Same here, she's been an excellent sports reporter on TV 8 the last couple years. Because of a busy Indy weekend, I didn't see last Friday's announcement until I clicked on the tweet in the OP several minutes ago.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:35 PM ^
Sorry Rob but I wouldn't describe her as excellent. Way too many ridiculous gaffes during her nightly sports reports. My favorite was when she repeatedly said a LPGA golfer was playing when she was 28 months pregnant 🤪. The longer I listened to her, the more I realized she wasn't all that good.
December 5th, 2023 at 12:45 PM ^
At 28 months, she probably gave birth to a fully-formed linebacker. Maybe we need to alert our top recruiters to make an offer!
December 4th, 2023 at 10:14 PM ^
That, ladies and gentlemen, is what a winner sounds like after a loss. I'm glad he's on our side. He's a lot like his coach.
There are many reasons I'd like to see this team win the championship. They've certainly paid their dues. It's time to collect.
December 4th, 2023 at 10:14 PM ^
Wait, I missed the part where JJ played baseball?
December 4th, 2023 at 10:48 PM ^
Tebow answered the bell.
Now JJ has to do the same vs Bama.
December 4th, 2023 at 11:01 PM ^
I’m sure JJ remembers exactly how bad that felt. Here’s hoping he gets his redemption this year.
Go Blue! Bet!