OT - Iowa is still really mad about the Stanford Band

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It appears as though Iowa has decided to take their butt hurt over the, relatively tame by Stanford band standards, Rose Bowl half time show to legislative levels.

 

"Senator Mark Chelgren introduced a bill Wednesday that would prohibit “collaboration and cooperation” between Stanford and the University of Iowa, Iowa State, or Northern Iowa until Stanford apologizes for the band’s skit"

 

http://deadspin.com/iowa-senator-introduces-just-the-whiniest-bill-abou…

 

 

Everyone Murders

February 4th, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^

Your reasoning strikes me as a bit foggy.  In your broke man / car analogy, there's at least a common economic thread.  It's still a very shallow argument - we don't know why the critic is broke, we don't know whether the hard-working man's purchase of the car was reasonable, etc. 

To your original point, by your logic Iowa's legislature should never be criticized by citizens of a state that is struggling economically.  That argument is not particularly compelling.

Put another way, I think it's fine for anyone to criticize Iowa's dopey bill.  Even if they live in a state that has been mismanaged.  Because this legislation is shrill and idiotic.

FWIW, I like Iowa.  But this bill is stupid, and Michigan's economic situation doesn't deprive me of the right to say so.

(It's also silly to compare the two states' economies.  Iowa's is largely agrarian and arguably supported by ethanol subsidies, etc.  Michigan's is much larger and more complex.  But the main point is that's a sideshow.  The "don't fraternize with Stanford" bill is stupid - plain and simple.)

Surveillance Doe

February 4th, 2016 at 9:14 AM ^

So Michigan football fans are the broke man, the Iowa legislature is the hard-working man, and attempting to disassociate Iowa's state schools from one of the world's best universities is buying an expensive car. I think your analogy needs some work. Maybe Iowa can use that pile of cash to buy a sense of humor or some self-awareness.

Alton

February 4th, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^

"Its a bit like a broke man criticizing a hard-working man's purchase of an expensive car."

NO, it's more like a broke man criticizing a hard-working man's burning hundred dollar bills in his fireplace.

 

Wolverine In Iowa

February 4th, 2016 at 9:28 AM ^

The problem in our area (specifically our school district) is that we pay the highest per-pupil transportation costs in the state.  For some unknown reason, every school district, no matter its geographical size, gets the same amount per-pupil from the state for transportation.  Any surplus of this fund can be used for other purposes in the school district.  Unfortunately for us, since we are tiny in population but big in geography (comparatively), we blow through the money and have to tap the general fund to support transportation.  An even smaller school district in our county is going under, and so next year, we are absorbing their 7-12 grades into our district.  Not a fun situation.

bfradette

February 4th, 2016 at 9:25 AM ^

Are you really surprised you don't hear anything about a state run conservatively that is doing well in this day and age? For that matter, aside from Illionois and California, do you really hear anything about any state's fiscal situation if you don't live there? 

even those states are only heard of for their massive failure to manage themselves responsibly.

Regardless, I acknowledge my point could have been better stated, however, listening to people whose legislature is an abject failure criticize someone else's smacks of hypocrisy to me. apparently, I am alone in that regard.

Everyone Murders

February 4th, 2016 at 9:35 AM ^

First off, props for keeping it civil.  You're weathering an e-blanket party with grace, and that's not always easy.

But one of the core bad assumptions you're making is equating the acts of a legislature with the views of that legislature's constituents.  That's a false equation - I can guarantee that a substantial portion of most legislative district's constituents disagree with the positions their own legislators take.  When you expand that to the legislature at large, there's an even bigger potential disconnect between the actions of the legislature and the views of the constituents.  And, to be blunt, in any state your average state legislator is not necessarily the brightest bulb in the shed.

Now if the OP had quoted a Michigan state senator who had a track record of idiotic positions decrying the "don't fraternize with Stanford" bill in Iowa's legislature, you'd have a much more compelling point.  That's a true "splinter in your eye, board in mine" situation.

Anyway, enjoy your clean air and corn.  In the meantime, be nice to us - you'll be begging for our water soon enough.  (Not from the Flint water system, but the other water.) 

ElBictors

February 4th, 2016 at 9:48 AM ^

And when it comes down to it, this is nothing more than pandering to a base ...that may or may not really care.

No different than a southern Senator threatening legislation at the BCS or grandstanding about PEDs in pro sports ...you're trying as a politician to get attention.

So for those in Iowa who could care less, no harm - no foul.  But for those Butthurt by Stanford, this will play and just might be the votes to win re-election.

It's not about the principle involved, it's about the attention and self-promotion.

LSAClassOf2000

February 4th, 2016 at 9:00 AM ^

You know, Iowa deserves to get its wish by having the Stanford band compose an equally irreverent apology - that would actually be hilarious, in my opinion, if the apology made them even more upset. Honestly, you would think that people, even if they were offended somehow, would let this one fade quietly into the background. Not if you are a certain Iowa legislator apparently.

Ali G Bomaye

February 4th, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^

It's stupid that a politician would propose a bill handicapping his own state's universities because he feels offended by the performance of another school's band.

It's even stupider if you read the script for the halftime performance and realize that the "skit" was based on the fact that Stanford's campus is called "The Farm" and Iowa is full of farms so that they should be friends.

Script: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154484759815760&id=79838435759

It's about the tamest thing the Stanford band has ever done.

Perkis-Size Me

February 4th, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^

Adding gasoline on the fire. The Stanford band lives for this kind of stuff.

Honestly, Iowa needs to get over it. The Stanford band tries to give everyone shit. That's just who they are. Learn to laugh at yourself and move on. Honestly what the Stanford band did was pretty mild.



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Wolverine In Iowa

February 4th, 2016 at 9:05 AM ^

It's deep winter here - once the caucuses are over and the city-slickers roll out of here, what else can we do?  Yeah, let's trump up some ridiculous legislation.  What happens if/when the Hawkeyes/Cyclones get bounced from the NCAA tournament in the second round?

jblaze

February 4th, 2016 at 9:17 AM ^

I can't believe we let these people (Iowans) set the tone for our presidential elections.

Since that's out of the way, I'm pretty sure Iowa would suffer far more than Stanford/ Silicon Valley/ the Bay Area if Iowa passes this bill.

Also, to the poster that said that Iowa has "too much money", I'm pretty sure that's due to the corn subsidy by the Federal government.

MMB 82

February 4th, 2016 at 9:29 AM ^

TV coverage at the Rose Bowl: Televise the introduction, some brief close ups as the music began. Pull back to show the entire band scrambling into formation. A closeup view of the Rose Bowl from a higher vantage point. Cut to a view from The Blimp, showing a beautiful shot of the Arroyo Seco, then pull back further to show the valley and then vista of the surrounding mountains. Go to commercial...

Wolverine In Iowa

February 4th, 2016 at 9:25 AM ^

Every one of us benefits from the corn subsidy, no matter where you live, unless you are completely self-sufficient when it comes to eating.  Like it or not, farmers (in all states) have to be incentivized and guaranteed a return on their investments in land, seed, fertilizer, equipment, etc.  Otherwise we Americans would starve and so would many people in the rest of the world.

jblaze

February 4th, 2016 at 10:03 AM ^

You do understand that the subsidized corn is primarily used in gasoline, right? We aren't eating it. Farmers are also paid to plow their own crops. Also, we should call farmers what they really are, employees of multinational corporations (just like most MGoBlog readers). These aren't small time 100 acre farmers, they are huge corporations.

CAwolverine

February 4th, 2016 at 10:10 AM ^

I was at the game sitting with Iowa fans, we all thought it was stupid and it took a while to see they were making fun of Iowa. It was so lame, there was nothing funny about it. If there was, they probably wouldn't have been booed so loudly by more than just Iowa fans. Their performance sucked, it looked very amateurish and like a bunch of kids that drew this act up10 minutes before halftime.

If it were funny, I would have enjoyed it.

UNI_MaizeNBlue

February 4th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^

So much butthurt from the Smuckeye fan base.

I wish these folks would leave UNI out of the dicussion.  We dont care about your riff with the Stanford band and some of us hope you loose every game you play.

This state Sen represents the state's biggest shithole city/town.(I work just outside of Ottumwa, aka Oslumwa)

Where do I find job openings in Ann Arbor?

Tim Waymen

February 4th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^

Your team is supposed to be mocked by the Stanford Band. During the 90s, the LSJUMB was banned from Oregon after mocking the state's logging industry's effect on spotted owls. Other victims include ND, UCLA, USC, BYU, and more. Now how would I feel if Stanford roasted Michigan? Right now I'm saying that it would be an honor.

Ty Butterfield

February 4th, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^

Maybe they wouldn't be so upset if Stanford hadn't run them up and down like a bunch of school girls. Some fans were probably still looking for their seats and it was already 14-0.

MGlowBlue

February 4th, 2016 at 11:56 AM ^

I can never think of the Stanford band without thinking of the '82 Cal-Stanford game.  I could watch that trombone player get run over a thousand times.