NBA suspended season

Submitted by Rickett88 on March 11th, 2020 at 9:37 PM

Gobert turned in a positive test and now it’s over for a while. 

Crazy times. 

ijohnb

March 11th, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^

WD, SARS was worse than this.  It killed a notable amount of people but it was extinguished based on basic hygiene over a short amount of time.  What is happening right now is largely a result of the erosion of objective “truth” that had been developing for a long time.  The conditions were right, it just took the right catalyst.  This is it.  There is virtually no threat to your physical health, there is however a pretty imminent threat to our way of life and some pretty basic freedoms.

ijohnb

March 11th, 2020 at 9:53 PM ^

No you fuck off.  What has transpired over the last two days has been fearmongering at its worst and people need to start saying it.  Whatever, say what you will to me, neg me, whatever, but this is high level bullshit and I’m going to flat out say it now.

a2_electricboogaloo

March 12th, 2020 at 12:55 AM ^

This is incredibly far from an underreaction. An NBA player just tested positive for a highly infectious disease that has a 2% mortality rate and a 5 to 12 day incubation period before symptoms show. That means that he's likely been within infective distance within hundreds of people involved with the NBA (including the reporters whose mics he touched like a jackass). So basically they have a large number of people who are possibly infected, and then bring in crowds of 30,000 people to watch said infected people? That's an absolute recipe for disaster.

It's easy to dismiss the disease right now be we "only have two cases in Michigan". But everyone in medicine right now know's those numbers are incredibly far from the truth. It's almost impossible for us to order tests for suspected COVID patients. CDC/US public health has only done like ~10,000 tests, which is nothing.

Basically the CDC guidelines says tests are only for:

1. Hospitalized patients with highly suspected COVID infections

2. Old/Immunocompromised patients with possible contact

3. People who have come in contact with a suspected COVID case or have been to China, Italy or South Korea recently.

We've tried at the clinic I'm rotating at to have people tested, but we've been turned down by public health multiple times, as they did not meet the priority requirements. So it's likely that we have many, likely hundreds of cases of COVID floating around Michigan, currently untested (not to mention the test itself takes ~3 days, and the disease can take 2 weeks to show). Its also horrifying because its very mild in young people, so it can spread widely unnoticed amongst them (Gobert said he felt fine to play today), but be highly fatal for people who are 60+ or immunocompromised.

 

 

TLDR: because I doubt you will read through my whole post. We are not under-reacting. This is appropriate. Way more people have this disease that we currently have tallied, we just can't test enough. People will die because of this disease. Likely many. Canceling some sporting events is small fucking news compared to that.

901 P

March 11th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^

Please no one pay attention to this poster. COVID deaths surpassed SARS deaths a month ago. This is undoubtedly a graver threat than SARS. Even if you personally may not fall ill (or may experience mild symptoms) we need to take steps to prevent the spread to vulnerable populations and to prevent the health system from becoming overly burdened. 

uncle leo

March 11th, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^

Uhhh.. You are comparing something that ran it's full life cycle to something that just began?

And in fact, that makes your case look all the worse, considering this thing has wiped out 4,000 in a very short amount of time. 

 

JonSnow54

March 11th, 2020 at 10:33 PM ^

ijohnb, it is well past time you took the L here and changed your opinion to line up with the facts.  The official count says that SARS killed 774 people and infected 8,096.  You're way, way, way off man.

Also for the record, COVID has killed 4,630 so far, and counting.  https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

ST3

March 11th, 2020 at 10:46 PM ^

You are the one lying hoping people won't fact check you. Unfortunately for you, I'm at least the fourth person to fact check you and show that you are wrong. Why are you doing this? Trolling a global pandemic is warped.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/has-anything-changed-since-the-2…

  • By the time the global SARS outbreak was contained, the virus spread to over 8,000 people worldwide and killed almost 800.
  • The new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, which causes the disease COVID-19, has already surpassed the 2003 SARS outbreak.

Jon06

March 11th, 2020 at 9:50 PM ^

The mishandling of this virus while the government tried to suppress confirmed case numbers allowed Coronavirus to become an epidemic in the US, as in many other countries. You'll be fine but you should put off visiting elderly relatives for a few months. In the meantime, many thousands of elderly Americans will die because of this. Hopefully it's only many thousands and not hundreds of thousands.

ColeIsCorky

March 11th, 2020 at 9:50 PM ^

You are a healthy Male in your 20's. It seems to me the spreading of coronavirus is possibly easier than the flu, which is the biggest risk, but I have a feeling that you personally would "feel better" with the coronavirus than with the flu based off all the things I have read. You shouldn't be scared. If your immune system was already seriously compromised, especially if you were older than 70, then I would say you have a reason to get nervous.

The biggest thing I am afraid of is the economic impact, especially as a small business owner providing for a family on a single income. I am afraid this one will be felt for a while thanks to the mass media hysteria that has been created. 

Mitch Cumstein

March 11th, 2020 at 10:00 PM ^

I am personally much more afraid of the societal response to this than the actual virus. Me and my immediate family are in lower risk categories though.  I do fear for the well-being of the older population, and I really don’t want to be responsible for any spreading of this disease. If I were 70+ I’d be in a bunker somewhere with bricks of tasteless calories and would be terrified. I’ve told my parents and in-laws to not leave the house (am trying to get them help on groceries), and unfortunately they likely won’t see their grandkids for a few months. 

xtramelanin

March 11th, 2020 at 9:54 PM ^

in your defense and others who are/were skeptical, the problem is that 'Wolf!' has been cried any number of times in the past and it was a total nothing-burger in the global scheme of things. see, e.g., bird flu, SARS, MERS, and all manner of political stuff that would unnecessarily light up this board to go into detail. 

Lord willing, this will be a nothing-burger, too, but it sure doesn't sound like it right now.   and even worse, if this is a nothing-burger, then if/when the real thing hits who will believe it?  nobody. 

gbdub

March 11th, 2020 at 11:20 PM ^

Y2K was actually a big deal. But basically nothing bad happened because we saw it coming and took major steps to fix the issue. 
 

We didn’t “cry wolf” about SARS. I mean some people did but clickbait be click baiting. The zealous reaction worked to contain a serious illness that would have killed a ton of people without that reaction. Don’t learn the wrong lesson from a successful intervention. 

NeverPunt

March 11th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^

These are all precautionary measures designed to slow the spread of the virus. In all likelihood a good many of us will contract it at some point, mostly with minor symptoms or mild cases. Actions taken to slow the spread of the virus aim to reduce the spike in acute cases that will overwhelm healthcare resources (human and hospital) and lead to less ability to treat those unfortunate ones that  contract severe cases (elderly and those with immune or respiratory risk factors primarily). It is serious. It is not a significant threat to the welfare of most of us but action taken to slow the virus may save lives of those at most risk and the healthcare workers trying to save them

rob f

March 11th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^

An over- simplified explanation of the risk:

Your risk, WD, of serious illness as a young adult is indeed very low.  You may get sick, but without much doubt you'll live to tell about it.

OTOH, the risk of you getting sick and then spreading the COVID-19 virus to numerous others (especially people at higher risk: think mom and dad and grandparents) is the risk that you must try to prevent. 

NRK

March 11th, 2020 at 10:18 PM ^

Thank you for a rational response. There is a reason to say "don't be afraid, but be cautious and practice good hygiene habits."

 

I'm in a job where I've been dealing with this for the past few weeks and have a significant amount of insight into what large companies and drug and pharma companies are doing (without going into too much detail). We need to take this seriously, but not freak out. Don't let the pendulum swing too far in either direction and we'll all mostly be okay. Life may be disrupted for a few weeks for the good of society and it will be okay.

ak47

March 11th, 2020 at 10:41 PM ^

It’s possible for something to be low risk to you as an individual and extremely bad for society as a whole. You shouldn’t panic, you will likely be fine, but if we want to save lives we have to take drastic social distancing measures now.

JamieH

March 12th, 2020 at 1:37 AM ^

It's fine to be worried.  But unless you have an underlying condition, the odds are that you will be completely fine, even if you get it.  It has killed very few young people and almost no kids.

The real people that need to worry are the older population, especially anyone with lung issues or anyone immuno-compromised.  They are going to have a rough go of it.

WorldwideTJRob

March 11th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^

Hate to say it but it looks like we are headed down that road. Cannot justify professional adults not playing for fear of the virus and having unpaid young adults go out there in greater numbers and play. After the conference tournaments or hell even tomorrow, Emmert will come out and say the games are suspended until further notice.