Mike Martin likes Pop Evil...why can't you?

Submitted by MidMichiganLaurence on

I found this on The Machine Shop facebook page and thought it was a pretty badass pic of him.  I'm kicking myself for not going to that show. They really do put on a good show, despite all the constant reminding that they come from West Michigan. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

March 25th, 2012 at 11:14 AM ^

OP has a point, you know.  "The players like it" is the catch-all excuse for wearing stupid uniforms, isn't it?  Anyone who's ever said that, IME, now has no choice but to accept Pop Evil, too.

htownwolverine

March 25th, 2012 at 11:24 AM ^

This reminds of an article I read where the drummer of The Black Keys was giving a half-hearted apology for ripping Nickleback. The comments devolved into BK vs. NB with NB supporters using record sales for their support. I found that logic akin to stating McD's is superior food based on volume sales.

redhousewolverine

March 25th, 2012 at 5:49 PM ^

Beyond the fact that one of your premises states that the more popular option is inferior to the less popular option, that is not his argument. I can give you an equally shallow and inadequate argument for popularity. Option A wins more accolades and collaborates with more musically talented and successful individuals, but more people with little musical background like Option B more. More people liking your music makes you superior Therefore, Option B is superior. Equally lacking. If no one ever heard any of Mozart's symphonies, would NB be better musicians than he was? No.

He also does not indicate that he knows better. All he was stating is that popularity is not always indicative of superiority. Superiority comes from complexity, depth, substance, appreciative value (popularity to an extent), rarity, uniqueness, innovation, etc. Popularity is a facet of it but not indicative of superiority. Do most people really have a grasp or understanding of music to really appreciate what makes some music better than others? No, well not really. Most (myself included) cannot tell you why Beethoven and Mozart were geniuses and most would either say they suck, they do not like that type of music, or that they can appreciate their talent but just do no understand classical music. People just have different interests and some music resonates better with them. That being said NB and Evil Pop suck.

htownwolverine

March 25th, 2012 at 2:14 PM ^

Disagree in part. While you can certainly purchase both NB and BK on itunes etc. and listen to both on youtube try driving around most of America and listen to commercial radio, NB is played far more than BK. So while both are readily available, both are certainly not marketed equitable, not even close.

I know eventually it's about the fast  money for the suits (we are capitalists after all), but in 50 years the art is what will hold value. BK will be listened to by future generations far more than NB.

Sometimes I am just fed up with the over marketization of crap to our kids instead of real music artists. We now equate popularity with superiority and this is a slippery slope.

 

M-Wolverine

March 25th, 2012 at 4:03 PM ^

Oes it get more radio play then more people buy it, or do more people buy it, so it gets more radio play? And really, most of the songs we listen to from 50 years ago was pretty popular then, too. The amount of "Citizen Kane's" that bombed originally but became classics is rare in most genres. Maybe no where more rare than music.

willow

March 25th, 2012 at 11:56 AM ^

I'm a blue hair and I really like them and the song.  How many teams have their own pep song?  Michigan has more songs than almost any university.  Go to a glee club concert and get a small selection out of huge repertoire.  Some may be outdated but they're representative of the time they're written.  The reaction in alumni section didn't seem at all negative.  Many I'm sure maybe indifferent.

Keep in mind that in the 60's the most popular local band was Bob Seger.   For those who remember Shakey Jake, another local star at the time was Washboard WIllie and His Super Suds of Rhythm.

coldnjl

March 25th, 2012 at 12:08 PM ^

What type of music can you really say that and still think it sounds good? Not much. I would only say that IMO (I am 28), Sinatra, some Elvis tunes, and some 80s rock still have an appeal to me. 80s hair metal, disco, early rap, and all country not done by Garth Brooks sounds like garbage to me. 

NorthSideBlueFan

March 25th, 2012 at 3:52 PM ^

After the Thanksgiving game announcement something to the effect that while they should not be playing the game, there is nothing wrong with pop-rock music if you understand that it is what it is, and that NB aren't so bad at that. A bunch of people then demanded I get the ban hammer!
People get real offended, real quick when you speak against the mob on these music topics!

Don

March 25th, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^

That's right up there with the following sophisticated lyrics:

"Go right through for MSU,
Watch the points keep growing,
Spartan teams are bound to win,
They're fighting with a vim!
Rah! Rah! Rah!
See their team is weakening,
We're going to win this game,
Fight! Fight! Rah! Team, Fight!
Victory for MSU!"

I don't care what they look like or where they're from. The lyrics are juvenile and the music is warmed over metal.

energyblue1

March 25th, 2012 at 12:25 PM ^

the band itself or "in the big house" ............I don't listen to the band, "in the bighouse" I thought was good for converting a fight song into a rock theme that is still safe for little ears and the bluehairs..............  seriously what else are you going to do with it and keep it family friendly.....

All in all people take their music, I say that loosely, as personal as they do their sports teams, some even more personally.  Heck scroll through each band or vocalists videos on youtube and you see nearly as many haters as there are fans posting back and forth...and no shot at anyone on this board but music fans are as bias as any without regard for true talent when it comes to musicians.  I may not like many bands or artists per say but I do know who is talented and who is all show and little talent.....there is a major difference some understand nothing about music but know how to entertain, others are great musically but need tons of help to entertain...few are both....

Purkinje

March 25th, 2012 at 12:29 PM ^

It pumps up the crowd. Apparently the players like it. The opposing team and fans surely don't like it. You should all stop being old and stupid and get over it. It's better than AC/DC, isn't it? It's all ours.