Kentucky TE coach Vince Marrow throws shade at Harbaugh and Michigan
Seems like someone is mad that Michigan is recruiting Ohio well...
This tweet is also weird timing since it was recently reported that Harbaugh turned down the Broncos job. Maybe Marrow should worry more about putting literally a single one of his player in the NFL
January 29th, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^
Clarification: Jim was not offered the Broncos job, but the Broncos reportedly moved on from Harbaugh after they met with him in Ann Arbor
January 29th, 2023 at 5:30 PM ^
Believe it was reported yesterday that they approached him once again. But we probably shouldn't worry too much about what some obscure tight end coach says. Even on a slow news day.
January 29th, 2023 at 5:55 PM ^
Harbaugh informed them, he’s still not interested!
They brought the ceo, and left without a head coach. If Jim wanted the nfl he would be out today! CEO comes it isn’t to interview you for five hours.. it’s to ask what it’s going to take to make it happen!
January 29th, 2023 at 6:40 PM ^
He was clearly still interested or the meeting would never have happened. Just because it didn't end in a deal doesn't mean Harbaugh isn't still interested in trying to get back to the NFL. Which he clearly is
January 30th, 2023 at 9:15 AM ^
Dude, if the CEO of a company that size wanted to meet with me about something I didn't want, I would respectfully meet with him to hear him out and respectfully decline. Despite what some folks have said, it appears that Jim knows enough not to burn his bridges (well, at least not this one).
January 30th, 2023 at 11:08 AM ^
Your personal experience is meaningless. That isn't how any of this works. Its all back channel conversations. If Harbaugh had no interest in the Denver job his intermediary would have told the Broncos thanks but no thanks and no bridges would have been burned. In fact having a meaningless meeting after having your intermediary express interest so that you can use the meeting as a tactic to get a better contract would be a much faster way to burn that bridge.
He wants back in the NFL. Maybe he would only take the Denver job if they gave him full control over personnel decisions or something else extreme like that but every single move he has made for the last two years indicates that he would prefer to be in the NFL over college. Its really that simple.
January 30th, 2023 at 3:55 PM ^
Actually? You don't know what JH wants, regardless of how definite your statements indicate and how simple things appear to be - for you.
January 29th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Reportedly? Lol. A week or so ago, it was reported Jim Harbaugh called the Broncos and withdrew his name from consideration. Did that stop the Broncos from pursuing him? No. And did that stop Jim Harbaugh from meeting with Broncos owners this past week in Ann Arbor? No. All the recent reports have said is Jim turned down whatever offer the Broncos brought with them to the Ann Arbor meeting. But this ain't over until Jim Harbaugh signs an extension with Michigan. The only remaining question is: who wants Jim Harbaugh more, Michigan or the Broncos? From the outside, it seems the Broncos are working hard to convince Jim they truly want him. Michigan? Not so much.
January 30th, 2023 at 1:12 PM ^
you offered the caveat "from the outside"...does this mean you then acknowledge that there are communications happening that we're not privy to, and that it's entirely possible that this "from the outside" perspective is more reflective of one side of this situation than it is another given that one of the sides is putting almost nothing out into the public eye right now?
just because Santa/Warde aren't putting love letters to Harbaugh on the front page of MLive and DetNews doesn't mean Michigan isn't working hard to keep him. The fact that he turned down the broncos (twice) and announced he's coaching Michigan next season tells me that whatever Michigan is doing is at least enough...
January 29th, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^
Time to ban Vince Marrow from the blog!
January 29th, 2023 at 4:20 PM ^
Vince has a cousin named Bone. He should be banned also.
January 29th, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^
We actually need bone marrow.
January 29th, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^
No way! You can always count on him to push back against viral trash.
January 29th, 2023 at 8:56 PM ^
It might mean something if I'd ever heard of Vince Marrow....and I mightve heard his name had Kentucky ever really accomplished anything meaningful. I don't know any of Rutgers assistant coaches either. Not a coincidence
January 29th, 2023 at 8:53 PM ^
January 29th, 2023 at 3:56 PM ^
Probably not a great sign for your program when coaches are venting their frustration about recruiting on Twitter.
January 29th, 2023 at 6:09 PM ^
Remember when Kentucky won an SEC Championship? You don't because it was 73 years ago.
January 29th, 2023 at 6:28 PM ^
I have heard that he was a pretty good recruiter but i can't remember when the last time Kentucky won anything or was close to winning anything significant in football. These guys negative recruit us all the time. Michigan is a world class institution and people understand what that means, even if he doesn't understand that or if he doesn't understand that its the recruit's decision when its said and done. They need to concentrate on themselves. It could make the difference between Kentucky winning another game or two.
January 29th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
I may be misremembering but isn’t he also cousins with or at least from the same town as Clinkscale? Think there may be some rivalry/sour grapes there
January 29th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
Yeah, exactly, it's Kentucky football. It's roughly analogous to Indiana football in the Big Ten, but worse. They went 75 years without a win over Alabama. It is weird how irrelevant Kentucky football is in the SEC, although you might have a hard time convincing Kentucky fans of that.
January 30th, 2023 at 8:46 AM ^
Wait, they're a P5 school? I thought they were just one of those FCS cupcakes that SEC teams schedule every year.
January 30th, 2023 at 8:17 AM ^
I remember.
January 30th, 2023 at 8:49 AM ^
Pepridge Farms remembers.
January 29th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
Big Blue glad they don't have the problem of winning conference championships and making the playoff. Cup half-full, well done.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:01 PM ^
Beat me by a minute! Great minds...
January 29th, 2023 at 6:32 PM ^
For once and for all:
Maize and Blue > Big Blue
January 29th, 2023 at 3:59 PM ^
Do you know what else Kentucky doesn't have to worry about? Winning the SEC or getting to the playoffs. Ciao, loser.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:19 PM ^
Or others having interest in their coaches
January 29th, 2023 at 5:56 PM ^
Well…Clinkscale wasn’t exactly a free agent when Harbaugh went and got him.
January 29th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
And we tried to lure away Vince Marrow from KY 3 or 4 years ago…
January 29th, 2023 at 4:00 PM ^
Yeah college football players will definitely see NFL interest as a bad thing
January 30th, 2023 at 8:38 AM ^
Right??? Do I want to play for a coach that is good enough to be in the NFL, or a coach that doesn't stand a chance of coaching in the league that I hope to be in after college?
January 29th, 2023 at 4:02 PM ^
Yeah, bad parenting to let kids go to a school that's winning conference championships, making the playoffs, developing players and putting them in the NFL, and has a money cannon available.
January 29th, 2023 at 9:01 PM ^
....and in the process maybe getting a degree from Michigan.
Michigan Degree >>> kentucky degree
January 29th, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^
That is some random ass snark.
January 29th, 2023 at 5:32 PM ^
He’s losing Ohio guys he used to get to Harbaugh now and with Cincy moving up to the power 5 soon it’s going to be even tougher for Kentucky. Marrow made his living recruiting 3 stars out of Ohio. He was having a lot of success with Dantonio gone from MSU.
Now Michigan is back to hitting Ohio hard and pulling guys that Marrow usually would have. Cincy is also pulling in a lot of his 1b options after Michigan pulls his 1a. He also had some success recruiting Michigan. Tucker has done a good job shutting that down so he’s having a really rough time pulling anyone significant. The couple of big time guys he recruited from Ohio/Michigan are all transferring away to other schools. He’s losing everywhere.
Also he had a job offer from Harbaugh back before Moore was hired and had a chance to come to U of M. He essentially told Harbaugh he was happy and Kentucky would be better than U of M in a few years. Those few years have gone and come and Kentucky had their best run in a long time. And what do they have to show for it? They’re on a downward trend now.
January 29th, 2023 at 6:09 PM ^
Morrow has always been one of the biggest negative recruiters and it’s killing him now north of Lexington. He went hard to Indiana, Ohio and Michigan and would pull about 3 - 5 recruits a year and now that’s gone or at leas the quality he was able to get.
Add to that, almost none of the recruits he ever pulled amounted to anything or were developed at UK, very few in the entire program developed. UK is not a program you go to if you have nfl aspirations.
January 29th, 2023 at 9:08 PM ^
End thread
January 29th, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
Hey jackass. Go fuck yourself.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:07 PM ^
Lol nobody wants to hire anyone from Kentucky anymore. Poverty comments from a poverty program.
January 29th, 2023 at 5:59 PM ^
Anyone want to tell him where Clinkscale was prior to Michigan’s secondary?
January 29th, 2023 at 4:07 PM ^
I don’t get it, parents are still letting their kids go to a school that got their ass kicked by Iowa. Dude, Iowa’s offense outscored you, and they were outscored by their own defense.
Music City Bowl-ass program. I hope PJ Fleck stomps your ass in some random Southern city next Dec. 28.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:19 PM ^
I really like that definition of "an iowa". Let's use that like how we use "pulled a Rutgers"
January 29th, 2023 at 4:54 PM ^
Dude, Iowa’s offense outscored you
Mic drop.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:07 PM ^
Never heard of him but he sounds like a salty little prick. Now perhaps he should go fuck himself.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:58 PM ^
He used UM having interest in him (maybe he even interviewed I don't remember) for their open TE coaching position to get a big raise out of UK. He was supposedly a great recruiter but it's looking more and more like he was riding Clinkscale's coattails in recruiting. So yeah, he's salty.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:10 PM ^
So many reasons that is a dumb statement.
1. Obviously, the classness of it.
2. You could make a similar statement about 80%+ coaches, or heck, any ordinary worker. Most people would leave there current job for a better one or one they've always desired.
3. Maybe the coach isn't as important as the school & program to a lot of kids?
4. NIL money is also likely becoming as important as the coach.
5. A player can now easily transfer if a coach leaves.
Hopefully this clears things up for Coach Marrow.
January 29th, 2023 at 4:12 PM ^
You don't have that problem bc you can't crack a championship game, let alone a CFP berth. So, I guess you're cool with mediocrity.
