Basketball thread v. McNeese State
December 29th, 2023 at 8:11 PM ^
If Michigan can’t make the 2nd half comeback, Howard should be gone before the calendar hits 2024. I know some here are committed fully to the idea that Howard is no different from Harbaugh and all he needs is time, but enough is enough at some point.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:15 PM ^
I can't watch this, both literally and figuratively but diving into the box score.
We've hit 4 2-pointers all game.
We are nearly 50% from 3.
We're shooting solidly better than them.
They have 16 more shots than us but similar in rebounds... Which is utterly bizarre.
And we're down by 7
December 29th, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
It’s not bizarre. We have 13 turnovers. They have 1.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
Didn't see that amazing stat. So ya. Shitty.
Down 10
December 29th, 2023 at 8:15 PM ^
What a mess. We can’t do anything right.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:16 PM ^
Started watching on the alternative streaming link. Thought Michigan was ahead since the logos are similar and then realized Michigan is losing again. It sounds like Michigan, as usual, isn't playing D and or taking care of the ball. Just awful.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:16 PM ^
I thought Sadi was our “ D coord “ …. Maybe he should have payed attention what Luke thought . This is garbage …
December 29th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
This is embarrassingly pathetic.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
At least Juwan does classy things like getting into to fights with opposing coaches and his own staff
December 29th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
Are there people wearing paper bags over their heads in the stands yet. I saw a couple of Piston fans the other night wearing those. Wondering if we are at that point yet with our basketball team.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:36 PM ^
Very similar to Pistons. Can’t figure out how they can be this bad.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
Yeah where to start the criticism? It's bad team ball on both ends by athletic D1 players. At least the fans appear to be having fun in the stands regardless (or at least who the cameraman zoomed in on just then).
December 29th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
The fact reed can't dominate in this game speaks volumes
December 29th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
I mean. I saw the stat sheet and he is 0-1 with 2 rebounds. That's beyond not dominating. This team is tanking
December 29th, 2023 at 8:22 PM ^
I posted in the gameday post but there are rumors (and Seth confirmed he heard them) that Dug is ineligible due to grades probably next semester
IF true, this team is even more fucked
December 29th, 2023 at 8:25 PM ^
Is Michigan the only team left in the NCAA that still plays skool?
December 29th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
Yikes. That would be unfortunate for Dug. I guess for the team too, but I mean, does it really matter.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
Gives him more time in the portal to figure out his next destination. He should leave. This team is doing him a disservice
December 29th, 2023 at 8:23 PM ^
I gotta say Rob Riley (ref) looks like a Marine who owns a Landscaping company specializing in Pansies.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:25 PM ^
TMills already spoke on it but it bears repeating because it's a recurring problem for Juwan's teams. When the opposition is aggressive, you run backdoor cuts, stagger screens, feint your passes, shot fakes, etc. You know, basic f-ing basketball stuff!
December 29th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^
It's almost like Juwan doesnt know how to actually coach basketball, even at a fundamental level...🤔
December 29th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
This program is, to put it mildly, a mess
December 29th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^
McNeese State is playing at full speed while Michigan is at 75% effort.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:30 PM ^
Whoa, whoa, whoa, 75%?! This Mich team is more at 40%
December 29th, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
Yes he got fouled there, but how does Nkamhoua not see the trouble there?
December 29th, 2023 at 8:33 PM ^
TWill is still pathetic on D. At least he's hitting a few 3s.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
Because blocking out is a foreign language to this team
December 29th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
McNeese just got the turnover & 4 of their guys ran out on the break, Michigan had 2 back - but TJack slagged it & they got an easy pass for uncontested dunk. I don't think the other 3 wolverines made it past half court. Logging off
December 29th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
Mcneese has 3-4 tip ins. What a joke.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:38 PM ^
Unbelievable.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:38 PM ^
It seems like they have quit as far as effort and body language goes.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:38 PM ^
I’m so glad I’m unable to watch this garbage.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:38 PM ^
Quick. Juwan needs to be angry about something irrelevant!!!
December 29th, 2023 at 8:38 PM ^
What a disaster.
No...I haven't seen a second of this game. What a waste of a season. I hope Juwan is and stays healthy but at what point are the losses cut and a new direction is established? We just waste this season and then hope '24/'25 things get back on track? And if not that becomes 3 straight years of no tournament.
This situation really sucks.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:39 PM ^
There's no talent on this team to even pretend next year is better. Sorry. Dug, that's it. The rest is awful. Could have gotten started earlier by dumping Howard last year.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:45 PM ^
I would bet Dug transfers to a top 20 team.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
See my other comment. He should and I hope he does. The rest can all go. No ill will but this program is a dumpster. Everything gotta go
December 29th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
I blame admissions for the turnovers
December 29th, 2023 at 8:43 PM ^
Only a couple more bad losses from the home crowd chanting "SELL THE TEAM! SELL THE TEAM!"
December 29th, 2023 at 8:47 PM ^
Ok. I have no defenses left to offer. Fire Juwan. Have to go into damage mitigation mode now.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:47 PM ^
Warde is useless. He'll never fire Howard. All he can do is sit on his hands.
December 30th, 2023 at 1:00 AM ^
That's why it needs to come from Santa
December 29th, 2023 at 8:48 PM ^
McNeese has 42 points in the paint but HUNTER was the problem on defense, right???
December 29th, 2023 at 8:49 PM ^
At this point Howard needs to be gone. It sucks that a member of the Fab Five who had so much success at Michigan is in this position but it can't be allowed to continue.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:50 PM ^
Where are the Howard apologists now? No, I'm not happy about this.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:53 PM ^
Dennis Franklin and the Canadian guy nowhere to be found
December 29th, 2023 at 8:56 PM ^
No doubt getting harder to see positives. But I’m not ready to say fire Juwan. I want to see what they do in the big ten. But I know I am in the extreme minority at this point.
December 29th, 2023 at 9:10 PM ^
Cool. Can I get my negs back from you then? Guess not since points are currently frozen.
Seriously though, it's nice to see people start to acknowledge reality with this new data point. For me personally, all I ever said was the trend was bad and nothing really suggested a good reason to have faith.
I still wouldn't fire him today, but I just assume that's where it's headed...eventually. Will it even be this season, though? I wouldn't be surprised either way with Warde, tbh.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:50 PM ^
Nothing more to say other than Eat at Arby’s.
December 29th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
If TWill consistently gets beat off the dribble, then why... nevermind