Ezeh-E

February 16th, 2021 at 8:45 AM ^

Team chemistry is important, but so is skill. There's a reason Juwan Howard won with the heat and it isn't just that is a great team player, it's because some of the top players in the league were on his team.

Can you provide an example of more than one team who has won the NBA championship in the last 20 years based on chemistry rather than top player skill?

I'd certainly consider pulling a Chaundee Brown type player from the G League if I were the Lakers or Nets and had talent galore, but I'd argue all teams should use their draft picks on players with more athletic upside and fill in chemistry from other sources.

bronxblue

February 16th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^

I mean, I like Chaundee Brown as much as the next guy but didn't he transfer to UM because he was unhappy at his current situation at Wake Forest?  You can point to Danny Manning being fired as a reason for him to leave, but that just feels like a different rationalization.

Also, there's no evidence that the guys on Duke's roster are mad at him opting out, so the whole team chemistry angle feels like projection from fans.

upnorthricky2

February 15th, 2021 at 10:28 PM ^

He quit on his team.  He made a commitment to the coach, teammates, school, and his family and he quit.  It’s the “all about me” mentality of these athletes that will hurt the sport (s).  These big time recruits need these universities to showcase their skills and get their name out there and the universities need them to generate revenue to support all the other athletic teams on campus.  Let’s be honest, how many people watch the “G-League” or any “farm” leagues where athletes often start their professional careers?  Not me!  It’s not a perfect system by any means, but it is how the majority of players make it to the big leagues.  

DennisFranklinDaMan

February 15th, 2021 at 10:33 PM ^

I don't get the debate. Of course he quit on his team. I mean ... what does that phrase mean, if not this? We can argue about whether or not his decision was selfish or justified, but ... he decided, for his own personal (and not injury-related) reasons, that he had better things to do than play out the season.

Personally, yeah, it makes me cringe. I worry that we'll see more players decide, once team success is essentially out the window in any particular year, that they'd rather stay healthy for the pros. I can't blame them for that, but ... man, what will college sports look like if every time a college football team loses its third game of the year, all players with even possible pro careers "opt out" of the rest of the season? 

I hope it doesn't come to that, but I think that's what a lot of us worry about. Again, it may even be the right decisions for the individuals involved, but ... it will make our fan experience empirically worse.

Jordan2323

February 15th, 2021 at 11:03 PM ^

Win win for rat face...he gets to be the supportive coach while also having a built in excuse on why they don’t make the tournament considering it’s an unusual season that he says shouldn’t be pleated anyway. Izzy could try this approach but he doesn’t have anyone with surefire NBA prospects. 

BleedThatBlue

February 15th, 2021 at 11:02 PM ^

UK, Duke, Kansas, and UNC are taking the business approach, or OAD rule. This is/was bound to happen.  Johnson, although is a shitty team player doing it, is at least being forthcoming. I am a UK fan as well, and Terrance Clarke from UK opted out due to a “leg injury”. Only played 8 games. When these teams have this model of basketball there is no sentiment to playing for a team or name on the jersey 90% of the time. It’s a shame and along with AAU and G-league, this is destroying college ball. 

BlueMk1690

February 15th, 2021 at 11:47 PM ^

I think it's been obvious for a few years now that college basketball top recruits and the colleges happy to take them for a year are basically in a purely transactional relationship. There's no tearful singing of the fight song, no school pride, no sense of brotherhood or any of that. The team is used as a vehicle to get to the NBA, the player is used as a vehicle to get the team to the Final Four. I think it's pretty obvious that in Duke's case this year that deal isn't really working for either party, so does it really matter?

LabattsBleu

February 16th, 2021 at 12:08 AM ^

I think that football players opting out is a little bit different as they made that choice prior to the season starting.

wrt to johnson's decision, arguably, the same can be said for guys sitting out "meaningless" bowl games, though I think in the case of football, the injury concerns are magnified and legitimate. 

Not really a fan of Johnson's decision, because if Duke was undefeated, he wouldn't be making this decision...

MFun

February 16th, 2021 at 12:11 AM ^

How about just doing the right thing? 

Finish out the season as respect to your teammates at least. 

The narcissism has gotten out of hand and people should be called out for it. 

Why go to a college team at all? Just go to G league and save us the drama. 

But they are too 'special' to think about others. Trash. And anyone supporting this behavior is contributing to the trashy society we are witness to nowadays. Me Me Me. 

Bluesince89

February 16th, 2021 at 6:43 AM ^

It would seem as though no one here has ever quit a job for a better opportunity, unless they had absolutely nothing going on and all their projects and assignments were completely done and didn't have to transition anything.  

SysMark

February 16th, 2021 at 7:31 AM ^

It's time to get rid of the one-and-done.  Just let them go from high school or commit to at least two years.  Three would be ideal but maybe not realistic.

nybluefan

February 16th, 2021 at 9:02 AM ^

Money talks and bullshit walks.  These are minor league franchises.  If they want to keep the quality of play high, need to pay the players the real value of the entertainment and revenue they are generating.

Ali G Bomaye

February 16th, 2021 at 9:04 AM ^

It absolutely makes sense. Duke isn't going anywhere this season, and Johnson was always on the one-and-done track.

This is going to happen any time a guy who is ready to be a professional is forced to play in college, whether it's basketball or football. The only reason a guy like Johnson is on campus at all is because the NBA has a monopoly on high-level professional basketball and has decided (for now) that it won't hire guys less than a year out of high school. As long as guys are forced to play for little to no pay for a year, it's probably pretty fun as long as the team is a contender, but it doesn't make any sense for Johnson to risk millions to play a few meaningless games at the end of the year.

It seems like there has been a lot of focus online about whether Johnson "opted out" or "quit," with the latter having a more negative connotation. I don't think the terminology matters. The entire situation is artificial to begin with, and it seems like most people agree that Johnson is making a reasonable business decision. His decision to play college basketball wasn't purely voluntary in the first place, so I can't begrudge his decision to stop playing.

uncle leo

February 16th, 2021 at 9:24 AM ^

I have a hypothetical for everyone- mind you, it's not the best, but just something I thought about last night.

Let's say you are currently working for a company, making basically minimum wage. You are given an offer from another company to make MILLIONS of dollars. The only stipulation is that you cannot get fired from your company in the next few weeks because the new company has a serious policy about image.

You can either A- roll the dice for the good of your company, hope you don't get fired for whatever reason, and then move on to the new job.

Or B- quit your company, knowing that you are boning your teammates for a few weeks but run absolutely zero risk of putting your future employment in jeopardy.

I know SOME of you will say say but yeah leo, Johnson signed a scholarship and he's playing for that team! Sadly, the NCAA has no teeth. There's no way to punish the kid for saying buh bye.

There are a lot of us on our high horses talking about teammates, pride, etc. I can almost guarantee that a LARGE chunk of you, put in a similar spot as Johnson, would do the exact same thing. I don't blame the kid one second for betting on himself and not some faux pride we've developed as a society.

You can say what you will about him- it's not his fault. It's on the NCAA and the system. 

uncle leo

February 16th, 2021 at 12:40 PM ^

Kind of confused about this statement.

If you are trying to say that this dude's room and board and "free education" is better than the millions he will be making shortly, that's pretty silly.

Hate to tell ya, but the guys that go to these schools and have aspirations to play in the NBA generally do not really care about the free schooling.

stino97

February 16th, 2021 at 9:57 AM ^

To quit midseason is a punk move. Nobody likes quitters! He could have sat out and not played at beginning of season to prep for draft. Never leave a man behind!!!!!

truferblue22

February 16th, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^

Honestly, this is exactly why I've lost so much interest in college sports. It's not about the university, anymore. We ain't come to play school. It's just minor league NFL (or NBA) now.

Mpfnfu Ford

February 16th, 2021 at 3:41 PM ^

College basketball is under far more pressure than college football because the NFL and college football have a much more cozy relationship. The NBA wants college basketball dead, or at the very least reduced to a nothing TV entity like college baseball/hockey. The colleges can either live in reality or watch one of their biggest cash cows continue to be whittled down until nothing.

Pay the players, do everything in your power to make college basketball an attractive option for an excellent player who wants to maintain leverage and keep himself from ending up on a shitty NBA team, work closely with the shoe companies, basically live in the 21st century. 

Or they can just keep whining as players make rational business decisions and their sport becomes more and more irrelevant. 

Seth

February 16th, 2021 at 4:12 PM ^

Whatever. It annoys me but so does s player skipping the bowl game because I'm over 40 and a romantic. I understand it more with a one-and-done guy who was only at Duke because the NBA has a rule about spending a year out of high school before you enter the league.

Once players can be paid this problem will go away because they will have contracts that say they cannot leave early.