One more OT: Delta commiseration/complaint thread

Submitted by 901 P on
After several flight cancellations it looks like I get to spend the night on the floor of Hartsfield Airport. If all goes well--and I suspect it will not--I'll fly to a different destination airport tomorrow and rent a car for a 1.5 hour drive home. I'm sure many MGoBloggers had it worse today--feel free to share/complain here!

M-Dog

August 9th, 2016 at 8:57 AM ^

Mission-critical SLAs are heavily monitored metrics.  You can fool around at the margins all you want, but if you miss those it's closed-door screaming meeting time with two CEOs - your's and your customer's.  I've been there and it wasn't even our fault.

You don't miss those more than once.

 

 

UPMichigan

August 9th, 2016 at 7:04 AM ^

I feel your pain. The time I got screwed over by Delta I refused to stay the night in the airport so I rented a car and drove 6+ hours home in a snow storm at midnight that had completely drifted over a lane in Gaylord only to find the bridge closed to larger vehicles. Once across the bridge I found that US2 was closed. At this point I found a detour around the closed road and finally made it home an hour and a half later.

Christicks

August 9th, 2016 at 7:10 AM ^

We get to the runway and the pilot tells us our right engine isn't working so they try maintenance for 1.5 hours, then send us back to the terminal. Cancel the flight and we were stuck for 8 hours there. Then 1.5 hour delay on flight to Atlanta. Land in Atlanta and sit waiting for a gate for 2 hours. Then they send us to Chicago where the flight was delayed an hour. Then get to Cincinnati with no bags.... Shitty shitdick of a travel day.

Cranky Dave

August 9th, 2016 at 7:37 AM ^

Fairly regularly and empathize with everyone that got stuck yesterday and today. I'm traveling tomorrow but on American and on direct flight so should be ok

Perkis-Size Me

August 9th, 2016 at 8:00 AM ^

We thought our days were bad? Think about some of the Delta employees.

How many of them were yelled/screamed at, called incompetent, and blamed for something they had zero control over?



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ijohnb

August 9th, 2016 at 8:07 AM ^

I doubt that many.  High level tech guys probably got annihilated, but I doubt many of the "people on the ground" took a lot of shit.  That company needed to rally and demoralization would have been a poor tactic.  I'm sure it happened sporatically, but for the most part my guess is that your average Delta employee got their ass kissed from management a little more than usual yesterday so they would go above and beyond to put out fires. 

Njia

August 9th, 2016 at 8:12 AM ^

Earlier this summer, my family and I were traveling home from Seattle and were delayed for three hours. Delta provided pizzas and bottles of water at the gate while we waited. As we boarded the flight, a "red coat" Customer Service Manager was handing everyone boarding a voucher for a $100 gift card of our choice (including Visa, Amazon, Amex, Delta, etc.). 

That keeps the passenger griping down I'm sure.

translator82

August 9th, 2016 at 8:33 AM ^

Three years ago, I flew Delta from IAD to ATL for the NCAA championship game vs. Louisville. I booked a mid-morning just in case something funky happened, which did: The aircraft we were supposed to use suffered a bird strike when landing at IAD and damaged the wing (yeah, I know--not a great omen for the game).

It took 3 hours for them to finally cancel the flight and rebook us (I made it to ATL in time for the game, but couldn't pregame as much as I wanted to), but in the meantime, they brought out a cart of refreshments: I think mainly snacks and drinks. First time I saw anything like that with any of the airlines I flew up to that point. 

mgoblu88

August 9th, 2016 at 8:07 AM ^

Flew Delta GSO DTW last night. It was delayed leaving waiting on plane from Detroit, yet made up time in the air.
Then Delta DTW CWA and it was on time leaving for Wausau.
Felt for those who were cancelled and or delayed yesterday. I know what the floor at the airport (Detroit Metro) feels like.
Most heightened senses nights sleep ever ...

taistreetsmyhero

August 9th, 2016 at 8:09 AM ^

It's funny. I flew from New Orleans to DTW on Delta Sunday afternoon--just a few hours before the computer fiasco. There was a 3 hour security line for every single airline except delta. I waited all of 0 minutes, and it was glorious.



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skurnie

August 9th, 2016 at 8:32 AM ^

So this is for the Network IT professionals out there...this was all apparently due to a power outage near the Delta HQ in Atlanta the other day.

So did the disaster recovery plan just simply not work? Don't they have any data backed up? If everything you house (website, internal, external, mobile app, etc) on one server bank (cluster?), aren't you required to have a backup in another region (say, South Dakota) to act as a proxy until the primary system is functioning again?

I think Delta's CIO is going to be updating his LinkedIn. 

M-Dog

August 9th, 2016 at 9:04 AM ^

Yes, you are supposed to have all those things, with instant disaster recovery fail-over.  And you are supposed to test and verify that they work constantly.

Somebody somewhere dropped a lead ball on their dick.

mgoblue0970

August 9th, 2016 at 9:20 AM ^

It sounds like complete bullshit to me.

PR fail on Delta by coming up with such an excuse. 

Most companies, even those outside of the Fortune 500, have redundant power for mission critical systems so that if their is a disruption, you'd never know it.

NRK

August 9th, 2016 at 12:35 PM ^

According to CNN Delta has stated that they had a failure swtiching to their backup power. So not all being blamed on those outside of Delta:

 

Delta said the problem was set off by a power outage at its Atlanta hub and the failure of key systems to switch over to backup power.

 

Link

 

Niels

August 9th, 2016 at 9:22 AM ^

Even though I got my flight switched out of ATL yesterday to today, I arrived with my four year old to a scene more reminiscent of my Peace Corps travel days; no flight crew, everyone crowding around, no one seeming to know anything. The only reason I got on (even with a reserved seat) was bc of my status. Per other people's comments, some heads need to roll in the CIOs department; inexcusable to not have a backup system

medals

August 9th, 2016 at 9:31 AM ^

Was flying out of DTW yesterday.  Lots of people lined up for missed flights.  Tried to get on an early flight to NYC (there were open seats and I had only carry on), but they would only put me on the flight if I paid $50 extra dollars per passenger(!).  I tried to explain that with all the chaos, it probably makes more sense to put me (and my family) on to clear room for later flights.  And to charge us $50 per person when there are plenty of open seats, and when Delta was gettting national press about a major screw-up, seemed not to be a great idea.  The gate agent was having none of it.  Sure enough - a later flight to NYC was cancelled and my flght was delayed 7 hours.  Lots of angry people.  Dumb gate agent.  

mgoblue0970

August 9th, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^

Wait a sec... if he's already paid for his tickets, why should he pay another $50.  I fly all the time and every single time I've been bumped for wx, a mechanical, or even transferred to another airline, I've never seen the fare difference get passed on to the customer -- that only happens in voluntary situations.

901 P

August 9th, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^

That happened to us on our outbound flight. I was surprised that they would charge when putting us on an earlier flight was seemingly good for all parties--not only us, but anyone who might then take our seats on the subsequent flight (and so on).

Wolvie3758

August 9th, 2016 at 9:33 AM ^

and Delta is BY FAR the best airline out there,,Its rare for them to have this kind of glitch but as we all know we live in a technology era and this is  bound to happen..My pet peeve is when there is a mechanical situation and people are bitching..Would you rather fly on a broken plane I ask them?

skurnie

August 9th, 2016 at 9:39 AM ^

I don't fly that often any more but I used to...for domestic large carriers, I'd agree with you.

They seem to have upped their customer service in the past few years. Two weeks ago I was delayed about 7-8 hours due to a delayed flight crew and then weather. First they brought out snacks and water for everyone at the gate and then ordered pizza for everyone, even though it was a weather delay. Small things go a long way, especially today. 

NittanyFan

August 9th, 2016 at 9:42 AM ^

Airlines will have "interline agreements" with each other, where one carrier can (relatively cheaply) buy tickets on another carrier at the last second to accomodate travelers when things go bad (cancellations, weather, et cetera).  Nearly all the non-low cost carriers have these agreements.  Ultimately, these agreements serve the passenger.

Well, last fall --- Delta RATHER LOUDLY publicized that they were dropping their interline agreement with AA.  Delta's press release was nothing but patting themselves on the back: "our operational performance is considerably better than our peers, American was sending re-acommodations to us at a 5:1 pace vs. the other way, blah blah blah."

The public and arrogant manner in which Delta did that was a little over-the-top.  The rest of the industry no doubt loved yesterday.

NittanyFan

August 9th, 2016 at 2:37 PM ^

sure, if a flight has 1 seat left, an airline shouldn't sell it at low cost.  There may be that person who will buy it last seconf for full-fare.

But there are plenty of flights that take off with more than a handful of empty seats.

A few weeks ago, I was scheduled to fly CVG-ORD-OKC on United.  First flight was cancelled, weather at O'Hare.  United re-booked me on AA, CVG-DFW-OKC.  That got me to OKC earlier than waiting for later United flights.  The 2 AA flights each had about 10 empty seats.  Without that interline agreement, AA literally would have flown those empty seats for $0 revenue.  At least they got something.

Delta's 100% absolute refusal to work with AA in that regard?  That's arrogant.  And many Delta passengers suffered because of such when the crap hit the fan yesterday.

Bronco Joe

August 9th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^

Delta does seem to be better lately, but I'm a Southwest convert and zealot and SWA is my first choice when traveling. They may be low cost, but they have maintained treating their customers like customers. Just their differences in policies (no bag fees, fares applicable to another flight if you cancel without charge, etc.) would be enough if they didn't regularly have cheaper flights. I've never been disappointed by SWA, but even if I was, they've built up a lot of goodwill.

And just so you don't think I'm solely about low cost, my motto for air travel is, "Friends don't let friends fly Spirit."



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MGoStu

August 9th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^

I feel your pain. Couple years ago it took us 3 days to get from Seattle to Vermont, and when we got there, they had lost our luggage. Got it to us the day before we left for Detroit. And the flight to Detroit was cancelled. And then they canccelled our flight home.

Gatorade_Cereal

August 9th, 2016 at 10:37 AM ^

Two of my Delta planes in the past have had mechanical issues. I get onto the plane and the plane gets to the runway (both times) only to wait on the runway for an hour because of hydraulic malfunctions with the landing gear. Glad I didn't take off. Of course the planes went back to the terminal and I was delayed 5-6 hours on each occasion. Also numerous other issues with their service or plane scheduling. Never have flown Delta again.

ShadowStorm33

August 9th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^

This is the same thing that happened to Southwest a few weeks ago. I can understand weather and mechanical issues, but grounding an airline to a halt because of a computer glitch is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...

LDNfan

August 9th, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^

Flew from London to Detroit yesterday with my 8 year old son for our annual holiday with the 'spoil him to death' Grandmother and Auntie.

The delay out of Heathrow and the lack of communication by the Delta staff (I had to tell the agent at their service desk about the worldwide problem after checking the BBC on my mobile...she seemed geniunely oblivious) combined with the stakes (oh the look on his face when it looked like the flight might be cancelled) made for a highly stressful day...

I'm on the couch today in deep recovery...he, of course, is fine and in full Christmas in August mode. 

Mr. Elbel

August 9th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^

I got yelled at by my boss today. he says I spend top much time on my phone. he's right. I don't know how many times I've deleted the mgoblog app...it aways seems t reappear somehow!