No additional protest of Shea Patterson appeal by Ole Miss
BREAKING: No Additional Protest of Shea Patterson Appeal by Ole Miss - https://t.co/krNfgN3a08 pic.twitter.com/m1WsoQANoX
— Sam Webb (@SamWebb77) April 18, 2018
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Ole-Miss-latest-response…
"Sources informed the Michigan Insider this afternoon that Ole Miss filed its latest response with the NCAA yesterday. And while the initial objection was not rescinded, no additional objection was issued.
“They said (Patterson’s reply to the questions) didn’t ‘differ materially from the first submission,’ and because of that they had nothing additional to add,” said a source that has reviewed the Ole Miss letter. “They worded it in a way that could be interpreted as them maintaining their prior stance, but it definitely came across as a white flag of sorts. They said, ‘the University would not oppose immediate eligibility for Shea Patterson based on legitimate grounds.’ That they didn’t further argue the illegitimacy of Shea’s grounds by specifically addressing his response should be seen as a concession.”
Whether the NCAA sees it that way remains to be seen. There is still no word on a when a decision will be rendered."
So it's not official he can play. But it's a good step towards it being so.
Good.
spend money (probably a considerable amount) on having attorneys review the material and protest the initial appeal when it literally could not help them in any way and could potential hurt them by making them look petty and anti-student-athlete (if they could look any worse).
I also really don't get the point of coming off in public as phenomenal jerks, and then just rolling over dead and getting nothing for it. It seems as though they think everyone is looking at them and saying, "what classy guys! They didn't try to block where a kid goes to college AGAIN."
Just not sure I understand much of anything that they have been doing.
which is still pending. The two cases are linked and that's why they filed the initial protest. It makes it a bit surprising that they didn't have a response to the last submission.
As a litigation attorney, I can tell you that any time you are given an opportunity (or a request) to file a reply brief to the latest submission by the other side, you file a substantive reply if the case is at all in doubt. The only times you would choose not to file the reply would be if you are so sure of victory that you can confidently say "Nothing more needs to be said," or if you have no reasonable arguments to advance in response and decide to give up the ghost. In this case, I truly doubt that Ole Miss believes that its victory is assured, and their tepid reply seems clearly like the latter case.
That being said, I NEVER trust the NCAA to do the expected -- or right -- thing. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Here's a key quote.
Two days ago, Ole Miss received thorough responses from Patterson to questions from the NCAA case manager. Per NCAA rules, Ole Miss was given 10 days, until April 27, to comment or offer further remarks in opposition of Patterson being immediately eligible to play at Michigan.
Unlike the first time, Ole Miss didn't wait until the deadline to respond. It sounds like Michigan wasn't just given the chance to respond to the Ole Miss protest. They were asked specific questions, thus the optimism that a ruling won't take much longer.
You could potentially read between the lines on this.
Waiver filed.
Ole Miss appeals.
NCAA comes back to Ole Miss and says, "We plan on making this kid eligible. Any further appeals? Are you going to keep going and lawyer up against us?"
Ole Miss says, "No, we give up."
That's kind of how it looks to me. Or maybe I am just being too optimistic.
I'd like to think you are reading this right but I'll go with too optimistic -- NCAA -- or until we beat MSU and OSU....
eligible yet? Seems to me like they received Shea's responses to their initial protest, they decided his responses didn't include anything they hadn't already addressed and they said "we rest our case".
Put up a fight for a while and now realize it's a hopeless cause for them and are just accepting it and want to move on.
Ole Miss contested some of the evidence Michigan sent in to support their initial appeal. The NCAA committee gave Michigan a chance to submit more evidence. (That alone was a promising development.) While we're not privy to what's in Michigan's last submission, it's hard to imagine it doesn't directly address the objections from Ole Miss.
Ole Miss declined to address the new evidence. At the very least, that speeds things along. If Michigan made a strong response, as we would expect them to, then it's admitting defeat. They also waived any objection to immediate eligibility beyond contesting the claims made. They could have chosen to argue on more grounds.
I took the OM response to mean "let's agree to disagree". I don't think this is necessarily a positive development on the substance of the matter, but at least procedurally it means that they've rested their case and it's now up to the NCAA.
But if Ole Miss had anything to specifically rebut the new information, I'd think they would add it. It's really hard to say without seeing what Michigan submitted.
“I could be wrong, by my interpretation of the message that Ole Miss sent back to the NCAA this morning is, ‘We’re done fighting. Just grant Shea a waiver and get this over with,"
What? Don't tell me someone down there has some sense.
I haven't really been paying attention to this situation, but i'd assume this is good.
I do not know why Ole Miss would be so damned stubborn with this. They don't play Michigan, they probably won't play Michigan, why do they care?
It’s one last middle finger to the kid on his way out.
So it sounds like this could mean one of three things:
- Ole Miss saw Shea's response and is waving the white flag
- Ole Miss was confident in their original argument and didn't feel the need to add anything else
- Nothing
But ultimately it's up to the NCAA regardless of how Ole Miss responded.
What would be the point of having a gazillion accounts? Give it up already, ffs.
How does one accumulate so many negative points in such a short period of time? Were there really that many downvotes, or do the mods have a super-neg ability?
April 18th, 2018 at 11:39 PM ^
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They dinged you points for being a jerk, so you learn to be nice. 1,000 permanently and 100,000 for a little while. It's explained in the moderator action sticky.
True dat...don't mess with the MOMS!
Or you're a recently-banned troll (hence the new join date) who is trying to build credibility on this site by latching on to a situation in which there are only two possible outcomes (either he's eligible or he isn't) and if the verdict comes in our favor, you'll claim you "called it."
When a guy with an actual track record as an insider (umbig11) calls you a clown, I'm inclined to believe him.
So now you have inside information that we'll be playing for an NC.