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I'll always believe this…

I'll always believe this statement...the Maize and Blue came to play!

That crowd is by far the…

That crowd is by far the loudest I've ever been a part of (including any at Michigan Stadium or the Iron Bowl), and will be hard for anyone that wasn't there to truly appreciate the magnitude of impact those fans had on that game.

I was in the Michigan section in the upper bowl, and the difference was jarring when I watched on TV for the first time: no one in the stadium could hear a ref's whistle or ANYTHING all game long, until right about when those fans started shuffling out midway through the 4th quarter. Next time you watch it on DVR, pay attention whenever you hear a whistle, no one in that stadium could hear one.

It was most stark on that drive right before the half when Ryan Day called a timeout. Everyone on the field and in the stands thought that was a live play and couldn't for the lives of us determine why they had stopped play, and on rewatch the whistles were clearly blowing well before the play.

I truly believe those fans spotted that team 10 points that day from noise alone, they were rude and their stadium was old and falling apart, but credit to them where it's due.

The inventor of Python was…

The inventor of Python was actually watching Flying Circus when he named the language

I longsnapped at a high…

I longsnapped at a high level so that's naturally what I watch most closely on punts and FGs, and I think the move to the shield probably has to do with the long snapping quality as much as anything else.

Shield punting typically gives the long snapper an easier job: snap and run down the field. With traditional punting, the LS has a vital blocking assignment every play. It's a lot harder to get a quick, accurate snap off and then hold a lateral block than it is to just snap then cover.

Tarr's accuracy and speed have been a bit worse than Wagner, who was the starter before getting hurt, let alone some the really strong guys we've had recently before this. Adding blocking to that equation probably compounded the issue and led to slower operating times that probably necessitated the change. Tarr played WR in high school, so learning to block almost certainly started happening once he was on campus too.

Walk On Nation!

Congrats…

Walk On Nation!

Congrats Charlie, best decision you've ever made!

This is a great idea! Gladly…

This is a great idea! Gladly bought two shirts. Chuck's is the only place I always make sure to go to whenever I get back to Ann Arbor.

I'd reach out to the ticket…

I'd reach out to the ticket office for that, mine definitely counted towards it. Given they counted as university donations vs. athletic donations so it's less pronounced in your point total than a $750 donation to the athletic department.

Another thing is the…

Another thing is the lifetime membership is discounted to $750 if you buy it in your first 5 years out of school.

As a donation to the school, it also counts toward your priority point total should you ever want season tickets for football or basketball games.

There are tons of great resources associated with a membership, but as others have said it's ultimately what you make of it. The local chapter of whatever city/region you live after school usually provides discounted tickets to their events for alumni association members, as well.

John Rubadeau

This thread wouldn't be complete without a mention of John Rubadeau. Insisted the class must make team trips to Rick's or Skeeps in order to build camaraderie and then led one of the most fulfilling English classes imaginable.

Honorary mention to Barry Fishman and Bruce Conforth - both absolutely terrific.

That would make much more

That would make much more sense. Good call!

Terrific hire! Very excited

Terrific hire! Very excited about this.

Brian, you say that "Unlike Fisch, he is leaving his current job of his own volition"

Is that meant to imply it was a mutual parting of ways with Fisch?

You're wrong Ace YOU'RE

You're wrong Ace YOU'RE FUCKIN WRONG.



WINTER IS COMING.

Correct on the Ferrigno

Correct on the Ferrigno assertion. He coordinates special teams and develops and runs the schemes therein, but he lets the specialists do their own thing. He has some cursory knowledge of each specialist trade, but those guys just seek Chris Sailer and other related camps for specific technique work and whatnot.

Glorious.

Glorious.

After rereading a bit of the

After rereading a bit of the previous conversation, I think the confusion boils down to me agreeing with Space Coyote in that the playside safety walked down into the box changes the play so that he's the MIKE.  So in your terms, I view the play as Lewan and Schofield are blocking the NEW WILL, so it's true to how you explained Power.

With this in mind, I believe Lewan and Schofield were correct in having Lewan peel off to the player functioning as the WILL, but Bryant didn't get the adjustment and blocked who he thought was the MIKE.

My only point of contention is that Glasgow should pick up #9, in that #9 still has linebacker responsibility and could (did) go unblocked after reading pull from Bryant.

Well I guess bottom line me

Well I guess bottom line me and you run Power differently.

The teams I've been involved with have always had the Center and Playside Guard double to WILL against 50 fronts, with the Tackle and TE (if any) double to the MIKE and have the pulling guard take on the playside safety, or if we don't use a TE he takes the MIKE, leaving the OLB for the kick-out man.  We've always had the backside Tackle account for the 4/5 tech backside, we only need them to slow them down a little and that player doesn't make the play.  We leave the backside OLB on the LOS unblocked, he's a non-factor.

On this particular play I believe that is the case, since I'm more prone to believe that our 5th year Senior future-draft pick tackles are less prone to biff an assignment against an unusual front like this than 2 1st year starting players, as Glasgow and Bryant did in my opinion.

My question for you is if the TE and Tackle account for the man on the Tackle and the WILL, who accounts for the box safety in that scheme?

I've never seen that against

I've never seen that against this kind of front where the TE would be responsible for the WILL when the Tackle is covered.  This defensive alignment is essentially a 50 front shifted to the unbalance:  in that alignment the Center and Guard are responsible for the Nose and WILL, and since the Nose is shaded inside the Guard, the Center can release straight to the WILL.

I guess I'm not making my

I guess I'm not making my observation overtly clear.

Butt is the kick-out man and Kerridge is the lead blocker on the OLB, there isn't any dispute there.

What I'm saying is that Lewan is functioning literally as a TE.  The debate in this thread has been about Lewan and Schofield's double.  The Guard and Tackle double to the WILL, not the Tackle and TE.  So Schofield and Kalis should be responsible for the playside DT and WILL, but due to the nature of the unbalanced set Minnesota aligns so that they're both covered with the corner up at the LOS. So since they both block the players over them, Glasgow must be responsible for the WILL.  Lewan helps Schofield on his way to the MIKE (or Schofield takes the MIKE if the MIKE cuts underneath for whatever terrible reason he might do that).  This would leave the box safety for Bryant.

In another sense, which two players can the offense not account for with the QB and RB? In this case it's the backside DE and #21 on the backside.

When I said TE, I was

When I said TE, I was referring to the lead blocker, not exclusively the TE that kicks out the EMOL. Normally on Power the next 3 players inside the kick-put block down block, with the backside 2nd level in mind for the Guard and Tackle.  But on this version, 4 players down block inside the kick-out.

As it's shown on the second Picture Pages, Lewan functions as the kick-out block, with only 3 down blocks behind him, which is normal Power with Lewan functioning as the kick-out.  This play is different, as an extra down blocker is employed.

Alternate Theory

A little late to the party, but on a normal Power play, the Tight End kicks out the end man on the LOS, Tackle and Guard double and work to 2nd level backside, Center down-blocks the next first level defender, backside Guard pulls and backside Tackle seals inside.

On this play, Butt still functions as the TE by kicking out and Lewan still functions as the Tackle by downblocking even though he's lined up in a Tight End position, so wouldn't Glasgow be the pulling "Guard" in this alignment? Bryant is essentially functioning as a pulling Tackle.

So in this case the box safety would indeed function as the MIKE and the MIKE would function as the WILL.  This leads me to believe that Bryant was wrong and should have picked up the safety in the box, and Glasgow should have accounted for #9, being that he's an extra down-blocker where the Guard would usually pull.  Williams also steps to seal the backside 3-tech inside, which would be the normal responsibility of the player just outside the puller (normally the backside Tackle).  Given it's a bit harder than a standard seal block on a man outside of him, but being tasked with sealing a man inside of him isn't unheard of by any means.  Glasgow would also have a relatively easy angle to take the WILL in this scenario.

That's not true. Liesman and

That's not true. Liesman and several other freshman walk-ons were not invited to camp last year and did not arrive on campus until August, so their names were not put on the roster until later in the year even though they dressed for most of the home games. The roster limit is 115 or so and the camp limit is 105. Not everyone can be invited to camp every year. They didn't count against the scholarship total or anything like that.

That could be the case with those new walk-ons, they may just not be on campus yet.

You really overcomplicated

You really overcomplicated this.

Just send back a picture of

Just send back a picture of you peeling and eating an orange or something.

In the video if you look for

In the video if you look for it Dan Gibbs is the Right Guard and LTT is the Left Tackle with that third group, so that's where they are.

WINNING IT ALL DAMMIT

WINNING IT ALL DAMMIT

That's pretty nifty I guess.

That's pretty nifty I guess.

He's still around, I noticed

He's still around, I noticed that he downvoted a thread a couple days ago.

The Player Formerly Known as

The Player Formerly Known as Mousecop

I graduated last year and

I graduated last year and still have a bunch of buddies on the team.

They're not going to roll over for Harrison, they have the talent to hang with them. And Harrison players and fans have went out of their way to talk trash on social media and tell them how much they suck, they aren't taking Fenton seriously at all.  Perfect recipe for an upset!

Welcome to the Big House,

Welcome to the Big House, Taybor Pepper.

23-13 Michigan
229 rushing

23-13 Michigan

229 rushing yards.

That's my favorite quote from

That's my favorite quote from my second favorite Bo!

45-13 Michigan

45-13 Michigan

It wasn't Putnam was it? I

It wasn't Putnam was it? I know he was at U of D and left recently.

The fact that he tried to get Webb to transfer totally fits Putnam's mold too.

There were two more from

There were two more from Fenton. Quinton Mandle (TE) and Tyler Tokarsky (LS).

Quinton just left Saturday to report to camp and Tyler said that he didn't get invited to camp this year, so he reports after camp is done at the end of August.

Okay, Quinton Mandle (TE) is

Okay, Quinton Mandle (TE) is #41, Tyler Tokarsky (LS) is #64, and Bo Dever (WR) is #3.

Kyle Kalis is #67.And I know

Kyle Kalis is #67.

And I know the numbers of a few walk-ons coming in, but that's probably not too interesting.

AMERICA

FUCK YEAH.

And not to mention that he

And not to mention that he didn't start the game, he subbed in when the starter tore his ACL. So in all likelihood he didn't take many first-team reps all week either.

Oh, and that game was before Labor Day, so he hadn't actually set foot in high school as a freshman yet.

He seemed to look pretty decent when they throttled DCC in the state championship game though...

Alex Anzalone will not be the

Alex Anzalone will not be the difference between a strong OSU and a floundering one. He could, however, be a real pain in the ass for the next 4/5 years and it definitely helps our cause with him going elsewhere.

A steal of a 7th round pick,

A steal of a 7th round pick, he's going to do great things for that team. Good for him, he deserves this. One of my favorite players ever.

I read all of these puns at

I read all of these puns at the top of a Hill.

Nope

With three players from my school walking-on this fall, I can say that they've told me beyond a doubt they must take 12 credit hours at a minimum in the Fall and Winter semesters. They try to keep it close to 12 in the Fall for obvious reasons, and then have 16 or so in the Winter.

They try to take ~6 credit hours during the spring or summer term to keep pace, I think they said they try to graduate them in 3 1/2 years if they can so that they're not scrambling at the tail end of their senior year to meet graduation requirements. If they're redshirting, this allows them to work on their masters for that last year or year and a half.

Havng a return trip is in the

Havng a return trip is in the contract between the conferences...it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to announce a single game against a Pac-12 school only to schedule another Pac-12 school for a home-and-home again in the near future.

Talk about contradicting

Talk about contradicting oneself...

Last time I checked, 11 (million) - 10 (million) = 1 (million). That's if the project were to be completed solely with this year's projected surplus, which is positive. that's not a deficit if the net result is still positive. And as you said, these things aren't planned overnight so the project wouldn't be funded entirely by this year's profit. Even if they did begin funding it with this year's profit they surely wouldn't use all of it, and would still have a substantial profit margin.

And if you think that the cash made from this game doesn't at least partially go towards that project, you're incredibly ignorant.

To say that renovations to the facility where the football team spends the vast majority of its time are a waste of $10 million dollars is another ignorant statement. If we want to continue reeling in elite recruits, we need to stay on par with or above our competition, and state-of-the-art facilities are one of the major attractions to many, many recruits. The renovations will pay dividends in the future, there's no doubt about that.

Although yes, I would have liked to have the band at the game, it's not the end of the world and the expenses saved won't just go to the Dave Brandon Strippers and Blow Foundation, they'll go towards something beneficial to the program. Sure you might not agree with some of the things he's done for the program, but he's modernized the athletic department and done substantially more good than bad for it. If you think not too far back, an athletic director in the past by the last name of Canham often made 'radical' and unpopular choices at the time, including hiring an Ohio boy with a goofy last name, but you don't see anyone badmouthing him anymore.

EDIT: Wow, didn't realize how long that turned out. Sorry to everyone, but having talked to the man once in the past I respect him and I find it difficult to tolerate relatively clueless people bad-mouthing him because he made the decision to not bring the band to a game.

Don't believe me then, I

Don't believe me then, I don't have to validate what I've been told to you.

But as the gentleman above me said, you're rumormongering just as much as I supposedly am. Maybe you're right, and Mr. Brandon only took the job to further his own career and suck every penny out of the program and the student athletes only to eventually leave and organize a military coup to take over the Midwest, one state at a time.

Well actually I've heard that

Well actually I've heard that there's going to be a ~$10 million dollar renovation to the front of Schembechler Hall in the not-so-distant future, so maybe $400K does make a difference and  *shocker* Dave Brandon knows what the hell he's doing. Contrary to popular belief, money does NOT in fact grow on trees, especially $10 million dollars worth.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my school get state-of-the-art facilities for the football program for the foreseeable future than have our fight song play after a touchdown in what will inevitably be drowned out by fans anyway.

Hmmm

Judging by the rate at which comments are coming in on this thread and the composition of them, there's considerably less RAGE today.

OSU's OLine definitely looks

OSU's OLine definitely looks vulnerable in pass protection. Hopefully we can use our smaller, quicker DLine to exploit that.

Miller is sporadic, making great throws interspersed with awful ones. He should be fine, but if he gets hurt though, they might be in trouble with Guiton.

Overall, I don't think it would be crazy to predict 8-10 wins for them this year.

Well, he did say his visit

Well, he did say his visit was a 10 out of 10, so it's not like we're out of it, but he did just spend a week in Tallahasee.