What is that thuggery with the goalie punch? He should be suspended! ATTEMPT OF MURDER!
Let's write to the B1G commissioner! We can't have this filth on the sacred ground of college sport!
And yet, at the end of the day, it's still 28-14. How this translates to "owning us" doesn't really make sense. And to forestall your "LOLZ ALL TIME RECORD" argument (because wins in 1901 have a lot of significance in 2011 anyway, just ask the Boers), you already implied that the last three wins didn't count because you were "down". Well, MSU was "down" for the first forty years of our existence, yet you still cling to those wins because they're the only thing keeping you sane these days. You can have one, but not the other. Either all the "down" wins count, or none of them do.
We can enjoy the win over Wisconsin and call you out for being arrogant hypocrites. Pride in a football team is not a zero-sum game; it's not like I run out of "Spartan Pride Points" by using them all on mgoblog rather than Bucky's 5th Quarter. You state that "no one else even acknowledges you" somewhere in there (let's just ignore MSU being a top ten team, coming off a Big Ten Championship) to try and salvage some sort of point from your incoherent rambling. Yet lost in that drivel is the fact that you don't really need to acknowledge us; we're there anyway. We've been beating you with a club four years in a row, and your desperate assurances to one another that "DON'T WORRY, THIS ISN'T REALLY HAPPENING" doesn't change the reality of the situation.
And of course, you close with a blanket statement trying to bring academics into a football discussion. Notwithstanding the fact that MSU's Packaging program creates a lot of jobs, your blanket denunciation of an entire university's academics comes off as a little desperate in light of the context. Many of MSU's programs are superior to Michigan's. Many of Michigan's programs are superior to MSU's. They're both fantastic institutions that provide much needed education in this state. Yet somehow, you feel the need to denigrate our academic qualities in order to validate yours. It's like you cannot tolerate success by anyone else, because it somehow detracts from your own. Pardon me for pointing it out, but doesn't that seem more like the "little brother syndrome" than kicking back and enjoying a victory?
Wait, doesn't that make Charles Woodson a thug who should never see another snap? A convicted felon who should be tried for ATTEMPT OF MURDER?
Your inconsistencies weaken your argument. You don't seem to care about the glorious purity of gentlemanly college football when it's your players playing tough.
Mighty Michigan has been reduced to scouring their Little Brother's football games for any evidence of physicality at all. How delightfully ironic.
You want to talk about no calls? Glossed over is Lewan rubbing Gholston's face in the dirt, calling him a racist name, Roundtree's facemask and kick in the face to Johnny Adams, etc.
Did it drive you crazy that those weren't called? Because that would be more ammunition for your purely moral, selfless crusade, right?
While I'm not sure whether either "preverbal" or "diahrea" are words (I wish I had gone to Michigan so I'd know for sure. Damn this useless MSU degree!), if I'm reading your post right, you want me to address what is tantamount to meaningless rhetoric? All he does is slander the entire university for something that, quite frankly, happens all the time in college football. Michigan is not clean. Wisconsin is not clean. Michigan State is not clean. The fact that you're acting indignant and holier-than-thou about tough football only reinforces the stereotype of the delusional, head in their ass Walmart Wolverine.
Ah, good, an arrogant Badger fan. The false sense of relevance displayed by Wisconsin, whose football and basketball programs have combined for an astounding 1 national championship in the last 70 (!) years, pairs well with the Michigan program still living off its Civil War Reconstruction era national titles.
Your programs deserve each other. Arrogant, hypocritical, and blissfully unaware of how much the country really hates them. Though it is deliciously ironic that UM has been reduced to living vicariously through other programs to get back at a non-rival that they claim is insignificant to them. Isn't that what they like to claim MSU does?
The really troubling thing here is that a non-story has been artificially pumped up into something like this. Were Wisconsin fans "outraged" at Mouton's punch in 2006? Were Wisconsin fans outraged during the Notre Dame game this year, when one of the nobodies in UM's defensive backfield punched a Notre Dame player and did not receive even a penalty for it?
The delusion on this board is mind boggling. Even most UM fans in the real world admit that a suspension was unwarranted. Here, in this bunker of self-delusion and arrogance, denial abounds, and the occasional delusional Badger fan agreeing with said denial does not give it any more credibility. That said, 28-14 still stands. See you in Ann Arbor next year. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sure Mr. Gholston is too.
Before you celebrate, think about what you've just ensured for yourselves. You think Big Will was pushing your offensive line around this year? Just wait until next year.
On two of these three complaints, your players were more at fault. Lewan called him a racist name and rubbed his helmet in the dirt after the play, and had a blatant hold on the so called "arm bar" (which is coincidentally the most absurd claim I've ever seen. That was an obvious hold, five yards downfield, after the play had gone the opposite direction. If he didn't want to "break his arms", then DO NOT COMMIT A HOLDING PENALTY). The third complaint, the facemask twist, was done by members of your team multiple times during the game. I'm still waiting on Roundtree's suspension. And whoever that nobody was that punched the ND player in the mouth this year. Apparently ND fans didn't cry enough to get the B1G office to step in on that count.
Notice that these are just called penalties. As is obvious to anyone watching the game, there are just as many cheap shots on both sides (Lewan holding Gholston's facemask in the dirt, Roundtree's facemask and throwdown of Adams, Roh's facemask twist on Baker). However, the officials don't generally call them on Michigan. Same reason your offensive line is allowed to hold on every play, and block ten yards downfield. Normal college football rules don't apply to UM, because the Big Ten constantly tries to prop you up.
Naturally, they can't make up for the horrific play on the field, and you end up losing anyway.
Wait, how are they not close? They're the exact same thing. Two blatant facemasks after the play had gone somewhere else. The only difference is, it's a Michigan player committing the act, which makes it ok instead of OMGTHUGGISH.
Wait, how are they not close? They're the exact same thing. Two blatant facemasks after the play had gone somewhere else. The only difference is, it's a Michigan player committing the act, which makes it ok instead of OMGTHUGGISH.
Amen to that! And so should Roundtree and Lewan, I say. I'm glad you pointed out that this isn't sour grapes; this is a genuine outpouring of concern for the good of the game of football. Your selflessness is duly noted. I appreciate you taking the opportunity to make things right in college football. Send that video of Roundtree's thuggery and Lewan's blatant racism and dirty play to the B1G offices so that justice may be done.
It's very big of you to have so much genuine concern for college football over a team that isn't even your rival.
I literally laughed out loud at that. Heisman candidate? Haven't you learned anything from the past two years of ass beatings? Dreadlock Noodlearm isn't even the best quarterback on your team, let alone the conference, let alone the country.
Felonious...like Roundtree's attempt to decapitate Johnny Adams? Face it, your team is no better. Enjoy watching Gholston play on Saturday. I know it eats at you inside. I'm sure the crushing burden of 0-4 doesn't help matters much either. Damn, what do you people have left? Recruiting dominance? How'd the past four years of recruiting dominance work out for you?
And Roundtree and Lewan, right? Let's be fair. We can't let thuggery stain our graceful game of football anywhere. SUSPEND THEM ALL! Do your job, Delaney!
If he does, the Lloyd Carr faithful would have a tough time criticizing him for it without being hypocrites. Which, admittedly, has never been an obstacle for Michigan fans.
No one? Come on, people! Get angry! This is unacceptable, right? Those thugs can't get away with such egregious aggression! Let's demand their suspension!
It's a good thing Little Brother isn't a rival, or this whole thing would be blown out of proportion.
Hitting the quarterback is not a cheap shot, although you might think it was from the way UM never sniffed Cousins' jock strap on Saturday.
I do like how you people are trying to shove under the rug the absolute beatdown you've suffered for the fourth time in a row. Eventually, people will forget about your lame attempts to make an issue out of it, and the only thing that will remain will be 28-14.
Have you seen the recruiting rankings for the past five years? I suggest you do, before you claim "Sparty" will "revert" to anything because you're "crushing" them in recruiting.
When is Michigan announcing the press conference to discuss the blatant facemask on Persa? Or Lewan's egregious shoving of Gholston into the dirt? Never?
Guess we know who the real Thug U is in this state. No surprise; it's the same people that hero worship the Fraud Five.
And more class from UM fans, like this comment on another video:
"Whether its football, hockey, or basketball, Michigan State is chalk full of criminal thugs and gangsters who do so much outrageous shit it makes Terrell Pryor look like Jesus. Fuck their entire inbred sports program with stinky niggers like William Gholston, Jerel Worthy, and Kalin Lucas, and psychotic crackers like Marcus Rush, Corey Tropp, and Andrew Conboy. They all can fucking burn in hell."
If only we could all be so enlightened and classy in defeat.
If you're confident that "superior recruiting" will carry the day, I urge you to look at the past four years of recruiting rankings, then do a double take at the result on the field Saturday.
This is phenomenal. Either side you take in this, you're being hypocritical. If Harbaugh was classless in celebrating, then a "Michigan Man" shows a complete lack of class one solitary day after you condemned MSU for celebrating a victory. If Schwartz was wrong for going after him, then you support a classless thug of a coach, as well as a thug player like Suh.
What say you, Wolverines? Pick your poison, and admit your hypocrisy.
This is fantastic. Phenomenal. We've pushed you around like children for four years in a row, and now all you have left is "classless!". Classless like Jailin' Rose wiping his ass at midcourt? Classless like Woodson fighting with Boston after every play? Classless like resident hero Lamarr Woodley starting a fight during today's game?
"Classless!" is the cry of the loser. You don't seem too concerned about defensive linemen being big meanies when it's Suh pounding an opposing QB into the dirt for the Lions defense. But when it's Mighty Michigan getting abused, then you start crying.
Because I love to see this, the one day a year where you can't delude yourselves into believing you're superior. Tomorrow, you'll look toward next year, and confidently predict a 65-7 beatdown, just like you have for the past four years. But today, you know who the boss is.
Mighty Michigan has fallen to living vicariously through real teams that actually manage to beat their Little Brother. What a delightfully ironic turn of events. You seem to care more about MSU losing than UM winning.
I don't care about your platitudes. We won. You can rationalize and make excuses until next year's beatdown, but it doesn't change that fact. We win. You lose. Again.
Oh yes, because if there's any fanbase with the most class, it's the fanbase that idolizes Jailin' Rose and Chris Weber. Hell, even Desmond Howard was a pretentious douche before he was a has-been. Do I even have to mention Mike Hart?
Face it, your team is as soft as the flabber on Hoke's chins. They can't compete with a real football team.
That might actually have more to do with the fact that after 4 victories in a row, the novelty begin to wear off. I really don't remember what it's like to lose to UM.
Recent Comments
"The most dangerous player in college football"? To which team?
Your best season in 15 years was roughly equivalent to our worst season in 15 years. Who is being illogical here?
You can keep talking about how great you're going to be. Little Brother will have to content himself with talking about how great he currently is.
And yet, at the end of the day, it's still 28-14. How this translates to "owning us" doesn't really make sense. And to forestall your "LOLZ ALL TIME RECORD" argument (because wins in 1901 have a lot of significance in 2011 anyway, just ask the Boers), you already implied that the last three wins didn't count because you were "down". Well, MSU was "down" for the first forty years of our existence, yet you still cling to those wins because they're the only thing keeping you sane these days. You can have one, but not the other. Either all the "down" wins count, or none of them do.
We can enjoy the win over Wisconsin and call you out for being arrogant hypocrites. Pride in a football team is not a zero-sum game; it's not like I run out of "Spartan Pride Points" by using them all on mgoblog rather than Bucky's 5th Quarter. You state that "no one else even acknowledges you" somewhere in there (let's just ignore MSU being a top ten team, coming off a Big Ten Championship) to try and salvage some sort of point from your incoherent rambling. Yet lost in that drivel is the fact that you don't really need to acknowledge us; we're there anyway. We've been beating you with a club four years in a row, and your desperate assurances to one another that "DON'T WORRY, THIS ISN'T REALLY HAPPENING" doesn't change the reality of the situation.
And of course, you close with a blanket statement trying to bring academics into a football discussion. Notwithstanding the fact that MSU's Packaging program creates a lot of jobs, your blanket denunciation of an entire university's academics comes off as a little desperate in light of the context. Many of MSU's programs are superior to Michigan's. Many of Michigan's programs are superior to MSU's. They're both fantastic institutions that provide much needed education in this state. Yet somehow, you feel the need to denigrate our academic qualities in order to validate yours. It's like you cannot tolerate success by anyone else, because it somehow detracts from your own. Pardon me for pointing it out, but doesn't that seem more like the "little brother syndrome" than kicking back and enjoying a victory?
We just pounded the crap out of you, physically beat you down, and you went and cried "Thuggery! ATTEMPT OF MURDER!"
Then when we try to complain about your dirty play, you say "LOLZ STOP CRYING"? Does your hypocrisy know no boundaries?
1. This would not be an issue if not for the unprecedented amount of "crying" from the Michigan fanbase following the beatdown in East Lansing.
2. You've been saying this for four years.
Wait, doesn't that make Charles Woodson a thug who should never see another snap? A convicted felon who should be tried for ATTEMPT OF MURDER?
Your inconsistencies weaken your argument. You don't seem to care about the glorious purity of gentlemanly college football when it's your players playing tough.
Mighty Michigan has been reduced to scouring their Little Brother's football games for any evidence of physicality at all. How delightfully ironic.
You want to talk about no calls? Glossed over is Lewan rubbing Gholston's face in the dirt, calling him a racist name, Roundtree's facemask and kick in the face to Johnny Adams, etc.
Did it drive you crazy that those weren't called? Because that would be more ammunition for your purely moral, selfless crusade, right?
I am salivating at the prospect of a third year of Denard arm punts.
Get over it, you lost, your team got bullied. Better luck next year. Hopefully Dreadlock Noodlearm learns how to throw a football by then.
Can I get this translated into a more proletarian dialect so a dumb ol' MSU student can understand the higher English Michigan students use?
While I'm not sure whether either "preverbal" or "diahrea" are words (I wish I had gone to Michigan so I'd know for sure. Damn this useless MSU degree!), if I'm reading your post right, you want me to address what is tantamount to meaningless rhetoric? All he does is slander the entire university for something that, quite frankly, happens all the time in college football. Michigan is not clean. Wisconsin is not clean. Michigan State is not clean. The fact that you're acting indignant and holier-than-thou about tough football only reinforces the stereotype of the delusional, head in their ass Walmart Wolverine.
Ah, good, an arrogant Badger fan. The false sense of relevance displayed by Wisconsin, whose football and basketball programs have combined for an astounding 1 national championship in the last 70 (!) years, pairs well with the Michigan program still living off its Civil War Reconstruction era national titles.
Your programs deserve each other. Arrogant, hypocritical, and blissfully unaware of how much the country really hates them. Though it is deliciously ironic that UM has been reduced to living vicariously through other programs to get back at a non-rival that they claim is insignificant to them. Isn't that what they like to claim MSU does?
The really troubling thing here is that a non-story has been artificially pumped up into something like this. Were Wisconsin fans "outraged" at Mouton's punch in 2006? Were Wisconsin fans outraged during the Notre Dame game this year, when one of the nobodies in UM's defensive backfield punched a Notre Dame player and did not receive even a penalty for it?
The delusion on this board is mind boggling. Even most UM fans in the real world admit that a suspension was unwarranted. Here, in this bunker of self-delusion and arrogance, denial abounds, and the occasional delusional Badger fan agreeing with said denial does not give it any more credibility. That said, 28-14 still stands. See you in Ann Arbor next year. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sure Mr. Gholston is too.
Before you celebrate, think about what you've just ensured for yourselves. You think Big Will was pushing your offensive line around this year? Just wait until next year.
On two of these three complaints, your players were more at fault. Lewan called him a racist name and rubbed his helmet in the dirt after the play, and had a blatant hold on the so called "arm bar" (which is coincidentally the most absurd claim I've ever seen. That was an obvious hold, five yards downfield, after the play had gone the opposite direction. If he didn't want to "break his arms", then DO NOT COMMIT A HOLDING PENALTY). The third complaint, the facemask twist, was done by members of your team multiple times during the game. I'm still waiting on Roundtree's suspension. And whoever that nobody was that punched the ND player in the mouth this year. Apparently ND fans didn't cry enough to get the B1G office to step in on that count.
Notice that these are just called penalties. As is obvious to anyone watching the game, there are just as many cheap shots on both sides (Lewan holding Gholston's facemask in the dirt, Roundtree's facemask and throwdown of Adams, Roh's facemask twist on Baker). However, the officials don't generally call them on Michigan. Same reason your offensive line is allowed to hold on every play, and block ten yards downfield. Normal college football rules don't apply to UM, because the Big Ten constantly tries to prop you up.
Naturally, they can't make up for the horrific play on the field, and you end up losing anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/v/oH5-oGxIgiU
So is this football? Didn't you kind folks lionize this guy for this blatant late hit, attempt to injure, and in mgoblog terms, ATTEMPT OF MURDER?
Stay classy, UM. Not only do you play dirty, but you criticize others when they stoop to your level.
You're actually comparing Rush's hit on Denard to that Suh tackle? Good Lord, you people are unbelievable.
And why do you cheer for Suh if he's such a thug, anyway?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypkQACgj4zA&feature=player_embedded
Go to 3:55, and start clamoring for the suspension of number 7, please.
I've posted it twice already, and both times it got deleted by the mods. Some people around here seem to be afraid of the truth.
Wait, how are they not close? They're the exact same thing. Two blatant facemasks after the play had gone somewhere else. The only difference is, it's a Michigan player committing the act, which makes it ok instead of OMGTHUGGISH.
Wait, how are they not close? They're the exact same thing. Two blatant facemasks after the play had gone somewhere else. The only difference is, it's a Michigan player committing the act, which makes it ok instead of OMGTHUGGISH.
So does this put to rest your collective self-delusion that MSU is "just another game on your schedule"?
Amen to that! And so should Roundtree and Lewan, I say. I'm glad you pointed out that this isn't sour grapes; this is a genuine outpouring of concern for the good of the game of football. Your selflessness is duly noted. I appreciate you taking the opportunity to make things right in college football. Send that video of Roundtree's thuggery and Lewan's blatant racism and dirty play to the B1G offices so that justice may be done.
It's very big of you to have so much genuine concern for college football over a team that isn't even your rival.
SUSPEND ROY ROUNDTREE AND TAYLOR LEWAN. NOW.
Do not let these thugs soil the sacred game of college football. Give Jim Delany your thoughts!
You say this with no trace of irony, mere seconds after condemning Marcus Rush as a thug for tackling your quarterback?
How can you people exist in such a state of delusion? Doesn't the sheer hypocrisy choke you?
I literally laughed out loud at that. Heisman candidate? Haven't you learned anything from the past two years of ass beatings? Dreadlock Noodlearm isn't even the best quarterback on your team, let alone the conference, let alone the country.
Felonious...like Roundtree's attempt to decapitate Johnny Adams? Face it, your team is no better. Enjoy watching Gholston play on Saturday. I know it eats at you inside. I'm sure the crushing burden of 0-4 doesn't help matters much either. Damn, what do you people have left? Recruiting dominance? How'd the past four years of recruiting dominance work out for you?
And Roundtree and Lewan, right? Let's be fair. We can't let thuggery stain our graceful game of football anywhere. SUSPEND THEM ALL! Do your job, Delaney!
If he does, the Lloyd Carr faithful would have a tough time criticizing him for it without being hypocrites. Which, admittedly, has never been an obstacle for Michigan fans.
Since no one is touching this as it is, just try and mentally reverse the jerseys. Now let's see where it goes.
No one? Come on, people! Get angry! This is unacceptable, right? Those thugs can't get away with such egregious aggression! Let's demand their suspension!
It's a good thing Little Brother isn't a rival, or this whole thing would be blown out of proportion.
Hitting the quarterback is not a cheap shot, although you might think it was from the way UM never sniffed Cousins' jock strap on Saturday.
I do like how you people are trying to shove under the rug the absolute beatdown you've suffered for the fourth time in a row. Eventually, people will forget about your lame attempts to make an issue out of it, and the only thing that will remain will be 28-14.
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZxG2pasxzUc
http://www.youtube.com/v/fMqbRgOGq24
Go at it, boys. Condemn their dirty play. Call for their suspension. Rage against Hoke for coaching his players to be thugs.
Have you seen the recruiting rankings for the past five years? I suggest you do, before you claim "Sparty" will "revert" to anything because you're "crushing" them in recruiting.
When is Michigan announcing the press conference to discuss the blatant facemask on Persa? Or Lewan's egregious shoving of Gholston into the dirt? Never?
Guess we know who the real Thug U is in this state. No surprise; it's the same people that hero worship the Fraud Five.
Where have your yearly confident predictions of 65-7 UM victory gone, my dear man? These last four years must have been hard on you.
And more class from UM fans, like this comment on another video:
"Whether its football, hockey, or basketball, Michigan State is chalk full of criminal thugs and gangsters who do so much outrageous shit it makes Terrell Pryor look like Jesus. Fuck their entire inbred sports program with stinky niggers like William Gholston, Jerel Worthy, and Kalin Lucas, and psychotic crackers like Marcus Rush, Corey Tropp, and Andrew Conboy. They all can fucking burn in hell."
If only we could all be so enlightened and classy in defeat.
Oh yes, good thing Lewan stayed classy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMqbRgOGq24&feature=player_embedded
If you're confident that "superior recruiting" will carry the day, I urge you to look at the past four years of recruiting rankings, then do a double take at the result on the field Saturday.
This is phenomenal. Either side you take in this, you're being hypocritical. If Harbaugh was classless in celebrating, then a "Michigan Man" shows a complete lack of class one solitary day after you condemned MSU for celebrating a victory. If Schwartz was wrong for going after him, then you support a classless thug of a coach, as well as a thug player like Suh.
What say you, Wolverines? Pick your poison, and admit your hypocrisy.
This is fantastic. Phenomenal. We've pushed you around like children for four years in a row, and now all you have left is "classless!". Classless like Jailin' Rose wiping his ass at midcourt? Classless like Woodson fighting with Boston after every play? Classless like resident hero Lamarr Woodley starting a fight during today's game?
"Classless!" is the cry of the loser. You don't seem too concerned about defensive linemen being big meanies when it's Suh pounding an opposing QB into the dirt for the Lions defense. But when it's Mighty Michigan getting abused, then you start crying.
I don't know what's more delicious: the irony or the tears.
Either way, this weekend has been a delightful feast.
Because I love to see this, the one day a year where you can't delude yourselves into believing you're superior. Tomorrow, you'll look toward next year, and confidently predict a 65-7 beatdown, just like you have for the past four years. But today, you know who the boss is.
Mighty Michigan has fallen to living vicariously through real teams that actually manage to beat their Little Brother. What a delightfully ironic turn of events. You seem to care more about MSU losing than UM winning.
I don't care about your platitudes. We won. You can rationalize and make excuses until next year's beatdown, but it doesn't change that fact. We win. You lose. Again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPYueAc5XAE&feature=player_embedded
Oh yes, because if there's any fanbase with the most class, it's the fanbase that idolizes Jailin' Rose and Chris Weber. Hell, even Desmond Howard was a pretentious douche before he was a has-been. Do I even have to mention Mike Hart?
Face it, your team is as soft as the flabber on Hoke's chins. They can't compete with a real football team.
That might actually have more to do with the fact that after 4 victories in a row, the novelty begin to wear off. I really don't remember what it's like to lose to UM.