|02/09/2019 - 10:11pm||You know the 3 point line…||
You know the 3 point line was closer then, right?
|02/08/2019 - 10:40pm||He got beat out by Jake…||
He got beat out by Jake Fromm who was... about the same as he was last year as a freshman? QB’s transferring solely on the basis of PT aren’t usually world beaters.
|02/08/2019 - 10:35pm||The Patterson thing took…||
The Patterson thing took forever because Ole Miss was give multiple periods to respond to certain requests and just let them time out. Seems like in this case Georgia didn’t really oppose the transfer.
|02/05/2019 - 10:14am||Pretty sure it means you don…||
Pretty sure it means you don’t have to try out to get your walk on spot.
|01/10/2019 - 10:27pm||That is a fair point to some…||
That is a fair point to some extent. However, there is absolutely no reason to be paying Pep Hamilton “Offensive Guru” level money when basically nobody can explain what exactly he does if it’s “Harbaugh’s Offense.”
|01/10/2019 - 2:27pm||No, those stats aren’t fancy…||
No, those stats aren’t fancy enough.
|01/07/2019 - 10:39am||Why do you consider watching…||
Why do you consider watching the two best teams in CFB play something you have to suffer through? Either you're a Michigan fan first and just don't care, which is fine, or you're a CFB fan and want to see the two best teams play, which is also fine.
Would you rather have a string of bowl games with unbreakable conference ties so we don't get a game with the two best teams every year and can endlessly discuss who the actual National Championship winner is? Doesn't the sports talk debate format already have enough to discuss?
|01/05/2019 - 11:14pm||I’m calling bullshit on that…||
I’m calling bullshit on that, even though you’ve built in an escape by saying “Essentially” twice so you can dismiss a few busts. I don’t know Clemson that well but from 2015-2017 classes I see several top 100 composite guys I’ve never heard of. Everyone has busts. Shockingly, the better you recruit the more “busts” you have, because if you have a high percentage of your team as highly ranked guys with an average attrition rate, guess what, most of the guys leaving are “highly ranked.”
|12/27/2018 - 11:22am||BCS Championship bowls were…||
BCS Championship bowls were not meaningless. Prior to the BCS, teams won and lost National Championships in bowls, even if the game was not against the team they were “competing” against for the National Championship.
Did you start watching football 3 years ago?
|12/20/2018 - 11:53am||How much do stars matter…||
How much do stars matter when they are potentially bad fits and a third of the class transfers before the completion of year freaking 2?
I recall the staff making a big deal about revamping their recruiting process AFTER signing the 16 and 17 classes, which by the numbers are Harbaugh's best (and M's best going back to what, Hoke's first full class?). Why might that be? On the surface it seemed they were doing well. Based on the large number of misses and transfers from those classes, maybe they were too concerned about finding the best players and not the best fits - I've heard Dudek stress (paraphrasing) "We want the best players that are the best fit for the University of Michigan." Just to be clear, I'm not a "there is something wrong with this program with all of the transfers" guy but the transfer rate has been higher than I anticipated.
|12/20/2018 - 11:46am||I haven't listened to this…||
I haven't listened to this one yet, but over the summer he was on WTKA with Sam and his stance was something like "Everyone agrees the top 25 guys or so are the best, but after that it's far more about evaluation."
|12/20/2018 - 10:53am||I've always wondered if…||
I've always wondered if everyone could meet somewhere in the middle in terms of paying players. My idea - Is it possible to set up deferred compensation for players, such as Federal max contributions into an HSA and/or an IRA/401k that they would only receive or have access to after leaving school? I feel like maybe that would placate the "WE CAN'T PAY PLAYERS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AMETEURISM" people to some extent. There would need to be some tax laws changed since I don't think you can make those contributions without certain level of minimum income, but it doesn't seem impossible to put an exception in for a few thousand D-1 athletes.
|12/19/2018 - 1:54pm||These points are valid, and…||
These points are valid, and even though the pass pro was decent to good, how much of that was being a primarily run first team? I wonder if Jim/Pep/Ed knew that our line wouldn't hold up if we were throwing a lot and teams would start teeing off. Runyan/JBB definitely improved, but they are still the same guys that got run over at ND. If a D coordinator knows that over 700 pounds of beef could be just plowing huge holes on M's right side 2/3rds of the time, I'm sure you have to make some sacrifices to your pass rush/blitz game. You definitely don't want DE's flying upfield against those guys every play, leaving your second level to constantly deal with multiple O Lineman coming right at them.
There are definitely improvements to be made, IMO mainly in the short pass game. Seemed a lot of our stuff was either PA deep shots and "easy yards" reads (screens and outs with corners playing off or bailing deep at the snap).
|12/19/2018 - 10:24am||There was a racial incident…||
There was a racial incident with a baseball player at UGA or something- Sam alluded to it this week. Not guaranteed or anything but sounds like he will fight for immediate eligibility.
|12/19/2018 - 9:41am||I wouldn’t shovel dirt on…||
I wouldn’t shovel dirt on their grave until we find out where Justin Fields is going and if he gets immediate eligibility.
|12/18/2018 - 5:16pm||Sam said on Friday Barrett…||
Sam said on Friday Barrett was back at Viper. Not sure 3ish position changes in a year indicate a good future, at least they happened his Freshman year.
|12/18/2018 - 5:10pm||No inside info here but I…||
No inside info here but I doubt Velazquez ever plays a meaningful down for Michigan. Not because he doesn’t have the talent but he is a much bigger baseball recruit/talent. In the world of college players making “business decisions” I can’t imagine picking the sport with much less longevity, higher injury rates and no guaranteed contracts (although that could change in the next NFL CBA). The only similar big baseball guy I know of currently is Kyler Murray, and he’s probably only still in CFB because he won the starting QB job at OU.
I’d love to be wrong and have him play big on the football field but I’m doubtful.
|12/18/2018 - 10:33am||Remember when you said this?…||
Remember when you said this?
Jim Harbaugh overrated, Don Brown overrated, U of M overrated. We will not get close to beating the Spartans, Buckeyes, Penn State, Wisconsin, and probably a few other teams.
|12/18/2018 - 10:31am||Oh man. Such a shame this…||
Oh man. Such a shame this is buried on page 3. Popcorn.gif
|12/18/2018 - 10:07am||Sam is usually pretty good…||
Sam is usually pretty good about admitting when he is wrong. He also has a lot more info than he puts out there for everyone, sometimes because it has been told to him in some level of confidence by players, coaches or parents. In general, he does focus on the positive as he doesn't want to promote anything that will hurt the program.
I understand what you're getting at with "sunshine blowing" but I'd say its more like "accentuating the positive." He does drop negative news, but I'd say he does it in a subtle way and you need to do a little reading between the lines. He's alluded to ZH looking less and less likely to go to Michigan (CB "less strong", the Game "really shook up ZH's world"). I guess you should look at anything Sam puts out as slightly negative as something that is probably a bigger deal than he is making it. With Eric Gray he indicated the staff felt they were still in it, but said multiple times over multiple weeks that if he didn't make it to campus to a game to not expect him in the class.
|12/18/2018 - 9:54am||There is massive selection…||
There is massive selection bias in just looking at the comments of those that leave. Of course there is going to be common themes. If you analyzed the tweets of other players that have left other programs you'd probably see the same thing. In the opposite sense, have you ever noticed that wildly successful people, when interviewed, say stuff like "Dream big, don't give up on your dreams, blah blah blah." Does that mean that is the key to success? Surely there are tons of people who failed but dreamed big and never gave up. Guess what, nobody's doing an interview with them because they failed.
|12/18/2018 - 9:49am||LOL @ qualifying running a…||
LOL @ qualifying running a mile as "max exertion work" for D1 football players.
|12/18/2018 - 8:21am||WTF is this, Alabama has…||
WTF is this, Alabama has tons of players transfer out. They also churn talent at a high rate to the NFL so most players either don’t sit at all (rotate in for small amounts of freshman PT), or sit maybe a year, rarely two.
|12/17/2018 - 11:45am||I like how you put "big…||
I like how you put "big games" in quotation marks so you can define it however you want. Clearly so you can discount wins against ranked opponents and primarily focus on losses to OSU and MSU. Also this team has lost 3 games in "embarrassing fashion" under Harbaugh's tenure - OSU 2015, PSU 2017 and OSU 2018. Less than one per year. We were practically averaging 3 bad losses per year the 7 years prior. OSU has gotten blown out once a year for the past 3 years as well.
If you want to classify all of this as Harbaugh's recruiting failures that's fine. I interpret it to mean that if Harbaugh can't do it then Michigan is never going to be a top recruiting team in the current environment.
He has also made staff changes over the years so I have no idea what you're blabbing about there. Young, up and coming coaches with good recruiting chops are going to move around - this happens at every decently successful team in FBS every single year. 5th class is also BS as he came in late for the first year. Even Tom Herman couldn't turn around his first class at a blue blood school in the most talent rich state in the country.
|12/16/2018 - 9:05pm||I know you love ripping on 3…||
I know you love ripping on 3 stars, but Clemson has more 3 stars committed right now than Michigan.
There are certainly some run of the mill 3 stars and there are 3 stars that were outstanding HS players but maybe project to a different position in college and their rating suffers. There are elite athletes with great “testing numbers” that haven’t quite put it all together yet and are 3 stars. There are late bloomer 3 stars that won’t sniff the field for 4 years and will break out as RS juniors.
Im not going to argue stars with you, but it seems to me that the staff is doing a good job with their lower ranked guys. The ones that don’t work out can/will move on.
|12/16/2018 - 8:51am||I know a lot of M fans can’t…||
I know a lot of M fans can’t process OSU actually slipping, but that quote says it well. The media circus about Meyer stacking his lies this year/offseason has made a lot of people think he’s some kind of buffoon/past his prime/replaceable guy. He is absolutely one of the best recruiters and head coaches- there has to be a drop off.
He took OSU from a top 10 team to a top 5 team. Doesn’t sound like a big jump but that is the biggest and hardest jump- a tier 2 team to a tier 1 team. Even recruiting wise, if you look at team composite scores there is usually a big drop somewhere between spots 4-8 or so, meaning that there is a significant difference between recruiting at a top 5 vs top 10 level.
People have been using Lincoln Riley as an example of how Day will keep things rolling, but IMO Stoops really was on the downslope. In addition OU won a lot of close, high scoring games this year that could easily go the other way next year, so I think the jury is still out there.
|12/11/2018 - 10:37am||Matt Brown had these…||
Matt Brown had these accolades and is a walk-on at Michigan (I'm guessing because 6' 220# linebackers aren't considered good prospects unless they are Devin Bush fast):
Honors and Rankings
|12/06/2018 - 5:04pm||Sam was saying the game was…||
Sam was saying the game was sold out, because everyone that buys a ticket for this game is guaranteed the option to buy a ticket for next year's Peach Bowl (or something to that effect). Next year it is a CFP game, so supposedly it is "sold out." I would expect much better deals on the secondary market than the Michigan channels.
|12/06/2018 - 3:48pm||No. The NCAA tournament…||
No. The NCAA tournament format introduces so much randomness that makes it feel like a lot of luck is involved. Last year's team was good, but man did they get pretty weak resistance on the way to the championship. Not their fault of course, but that's kind of my point.
In football you're basically afforded one loss the whole season, which basically can't be a conference championship loss. This battery of tough games at the end of the season - for most schools a rivalry game, conference championship then playoff games against the best schools in the country (no Loyola Chicago to be found here) is such a test that whoever wins it has truly earned it.
|12/06/2018 - 3:37pm||Do not follow. It's not…||
Do not follow. It's not televised much and there is other stuff to do/watch. I also think college hockey is a significant quality downgrade from the NHL. With NCAAF vs NFL or NBA vs NCAAB the products are "different" as opposed to an inferior product.
|12/03/2018 - 4:17pm||And OSU's blocked punt TD…||
And OSU's blocked punt TD and INT that set them up with a short field was all offense? Moving goalposts and making shit up, the MGoBoard Difference.
|11/29/2018 - 5:08pm||Is it possible this team is…||
Is it possible this team is coming together a bit earlier because the Europe trip already sorted out in general what most players could and could not be expected to do this year? The rotation has been pretty tight, where usually in November/early Dec we are playing a lot of different guys and don't settle out the rotation until B1G play. It's hard to believe a big bump is coming, but I certainly wouldn't be upset if it did.
|11/29/2018 - 11:51am||I think you're correct in…||
I think you're correct in that he will basically be evaluated as a Sophomore, but I don't think the year/age thing is working against him yet. In 2 years as a 22 year old Junior, that would probably be more relevant. The fact that he's older probably makes it more likely he should/will take advantage of a high draft grade this year if he gets it.
|11/29/2018 - 11:35am||This is such a terrible take…||
This is such a terrible take. Patterson threw a crap ton more INT's at Ole Miss and got pounded every other play against every pass rush with a pulse, culminating in a season ending knee injury against LSU. He also was basically running a wristband offense with a pre snap and a post snap read. Basically all of his yards came against crap teams at Ole Miss.
But you're right, he would have thrown for more yards so being at Michigan definitely slowed him down!
|11/27/2018 - 3:29pm||Ohio State is not going to…||
Ohio State is not going to return everyone on defense. At a minimum both of their starting DT's are going in the draft...hell, Landers should have gone last year.
|11/27/2018 - 3:22pm||Hard to have perspective…||
Hard to have perspective after Saturday but this says it well. We have a top 10 coach, and when we don't lose 2 QB's during the season we're a top 10ish team. The roster will basically 100% have turned over since Harbaugh arrived at the start of next year and I'm excited to see where the program goes next.
|11/27/2018 - 2:52pm||They were better coaches…||
They were better coaches that lost to bad, less talented teams? What?
|11/26/2018 - 11:55am||OSU has been blown out, not…||
OSU has been blown out, not just lost, once per season for the last 3 consecutive years. Clemson, Iowa and Purdue. They put the pieces back together and we can as well.
|11/26/2018 - 11:44am||The 2011 season was such a…||
The 2011 season was such a weird one. I honestly don't think that team was any better than the 2012 or 2013 teams, it just experienced massive turnover luck and ran into the worst OSU team in the last 40 years or so. The UM 2015, 2016 and 2018 teams would all pave Hoke's best 2011 squad.
|11/25/2018 - 9:00am||Maybe this is the ceiling,…||
Maybe this is the ceiling, but let’s not constantly move the goalposts- preseason everyone thought the B1G would be a top conference and we had one of the toughest schedules in the country. Wins are wins and 10 wins 3 out of 4 years is massive improvement since 2007. Time will tell if this is the ceiling.
|11/25/2018 - 8:24am||I think it’s comical some…||
I think it’s comical some people want him gone. The two coaching changes prior almost cratered the program. It is more likely to get worse than better with another change.
|11/22/2018 - 8:25pm||Just FYI, and yes it is sad…||
Just FYI, and yes it is sad that I know this, but almost every decommitting tweet uses that phrase.
|11/19/2018 - 4:06pm||Ohio State isn't fully…||
Ohio State isn't fully healthy. Nobody in CFB fully healthy at the end of November.
|11/19/2018 - 3:37pm||I've heard rumblings that…||
I've heard rumblings that the seat in Seattle is getting warm...
Watch them hire Pete Carroll and get even better.
|11/19/2018 - 1:00pm||I think that game is way…||
I think that game is way overblown in the fanbase and amplified because it was The Game, our recent history with OSU and the feeling that we finally had a good enough team to compete. I watched that video someone posted about the no live ball fouls and I saw 3 legitimate bad missed calls (the late hit and a couple of PI/Defensive holding) and the rest were pretty boarder line. You can argue the spot all you want but there was no definitive angle and IMO the offense gets the benefit of the doubt in most cases of spotting the ball. 2015 MSU by far the worst game I've seen from officials in a Michigan game and was orders of magnitude worse than 2016 OSU.
|11/19/2018 - 12:10pm||I'm going to guess being 6'2…||
I'm going to guess being 6'2" 233 lbs has something to do with that. Remember Rutgers' guy last year (Gus Edwards) that got us a couple times when he going north/south? Same size, and side note he just went 17 carries for 115 yards yesterday against the Bengals.
|11/19/2018 - 11:47am||One nitpick - Scott had 30…||
One nitpick - Scott had 30 carries for 139 yards, which is 4.6 per carry not 5. I know it rounds up to 5, but there is a pretty big difference between a guy that consistently averages 4.6 vs 5.0 YPC.
|11/19/2018 - 9:51am||I mean, that is what people…||
I mean, that is what people are asking but are those actually moving? I saw (very briefly) a Section 20C (25ish yard line) Row 11 with 1-4 tickets available for $250. Never been to The Shoe myself but those are what I would at least call "pretty decent" seats.
|11/19/2018 - 9:35am||Stueber filled in pretty…||
Stueber filled in pretty well against MSU, although the MSU DLine had faced a lot of plays by the time he got in. UFR may say otherwise but I think he was fine against IU.
I think a lot of the concern about last Sat is overblown. Not to be the guy that says "I checked the film" but I did rewatch the whistle to whistle film. The red zone issues seemed to me to heavily be influenced by some bad luck - usually one bad/just missed play that put us off down/distance. It reminded me a lot of the first 3 games of 2017 where everyone proclaimed we had "bad red zone offense"...that then magically evened out over the rest of the year despite our well publicized offensive struggles. The drive before the end of half was the outlier - I thought that was poorly handled by the staff and players. Multiple runs with no timeouts, no spiking of the ball, routes not run/thrown into the endzone, etc. There were also a couple 4th and 2's we may have gone for in a different situation.
|11/19/2018 - 8:49am||Stubhub is also barely above…||
Stubhub is also barely above face before fees. Outside of very special events, I think we've passed peak ticket prices for CFB. Media breaks are more frequent than NFL games. The "get in" price for these games for two people on the secondary market exceeds what it would cost to buy a brand new 60"+ 4k HDTV to watch it from home. I could be wrong, but he number of buyers seems like it is quite reduced. Tickets barely over face for The Game to decide (essentially) the B1G seems unheard of 10-15 years ago.