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02/21/2019 - 7:13am Exactly right...it was a…

Exactly right...it was a horrible game to watch. Nothing but a bunch of guys showing off for the NBA and the shoe companies.  No defense, other than trying to swat shots, no team play. I think there is probably an unspoken agreement (or maybe spoken) between players on teams like that to not interfere too much with each other’s highlight making.

02/19/2019 - 8:52am Picking a TE at #8 would be…

Picking a TE at #8 would be completely dopey, even if everyone had heard of them. No TE is worth that high a pick. 

So the Lions will almost certainly do it.

02/08/2019 - 8:51pm Except that none of our…

Except that none of our returnees is really good.  We're still ok, but nothing great on the OL.

02/08/2019 - 8:46pm Well, you seem to be hitting…

Well, you seem to be hitting it.  Yeah, Gil is "fine".  He's "decent", "solid" and "ok".  He only looks slow when compared to faster players.  But none of those are good enough to win championships.  Settling for guys like Gil is why we keep losing to Ohio State and never winning games that really matter.

02/08/2019 - 6:44am Gil is yet another of those …

Gil is yet another of those "I trust the coaches" low rated recruits that people think is a success because he's playing a lot, but it's only because we've failed badly in developing better LB recruits. We picked up three top guys in Singleton, Anthony and Ross in 2017, and only one of them has panned out, so we're left with a very limited guy in Gil as our best option.  This is why we lose the big games.

01/30/2019 - 2:27pm Teske is fine, but he is not…

Teske is fine, but he is not "dominating" in any real sense of the word.  He is certainly not what NBA scouts think of when they talk about "dominating" big men.

01/30/2019 - 1:51pm We can talk about other…

We can talk about other things, too.  No one here is spending 8 hours a day "focusing" on the Iowa game, dude, and it would have zero effect on the outcome even if they were.

01/30/2019 - 1:48pm Agreed...neither are playing…

Agreed...neither are playing like they're going to be high on anybody's draft board.  Still too inconsistent and with too many areas of their game that need shoring up.  Next year, very possible that they will both leave early, but right now, neither is at the level of Stauskas or THJ in their final years.

01/28/2019 - 9:20pm One of my favorites too …

One of my favorites too (since I was there), but you misremember it. We were behind by 11 with less than 12 minutes to go and came back to win.  We started the day ranked #3, but we won and #1 and #2 both lost.

01/22/2019 - 5:51pm We never place emphasis on…

We never place emphasis on slot receivers.  There barely even IS such a thing as a "slot receiver" in our offense.  "Slot receiver" is just a label that some here like to stick on recruits that aren't very athletic or that don't have a position, or on guys who have been here a couple years and haven't accomplished much.    

01/19/2019 - 8:41pm No, in hindsight, you'd take…

No, in hindsight, you'd take Gronk with a Brady throwing to him.  Every pass catcher looks better with an all-time great at QB.

01/19/2019 - 3:09pm Sorry, you're deluded if you…

Sorry, you're deluded if you think that a Rashan Gary fresh out of high school would have gone as  high or higher in the first round of the NFL draft than a Rashan Gary who'd had three years of college coaching, conditioning, physical maturing and game experience.  Three years of experience wouldn't have increased his value at all?  That's flat out looney.

And how much of what Michigan's football program earned over the last three years can be credited to Rashan Gary personally?  A lot less than the difference between what he'd have signed for coming out of high school if he could (which is nothing, or close to it) and what he's going to sign for now.  

01/19/2019 - 2:56pm If he was, they brought him…

If he was, they brought him in way too early.  A guy with starting potential is not going to hold a clipboard for 5 years once he's ready.

01/19/2019 - 10:43am Perhaps, but there is no way…

Perhaps, but there is no way you can use a tight end that makes them worth a top 10 pick.  You can get good TEs much cheaper.

01/19/2019 - 10:39am He may have a very good…

He may have a very good combine showing, but so may a lot of other DLs who are already ahead of him on most team's draft boards.  I don't see any way Gary jumps all of them.

01/19/2019 - 10:37am Millions?  All by himself? …

Millions?  All by himself?  No even close.  And he got room, board, and a free education for three years, so this "unpaid" shit is ridiculous.

Do the math.  Ask yourself how big a contract Rashan Gary would have signed with the NFL right out of high school, and how big a contract he'll get now.  The difference between those two is the value of what Michigan gave HIM (i.e Coaching, conditioning, game experience, media exposure).  

His time at Michigan will ultimately make him a lot more money than it made the university.  Neither he nor any players like him are "exploited" in any meaningful sense of the word.

01/19/2019 - 10:32am No TE should ever be a top…

No TE should ever be a top 10 pick.  Any NFL GM who even considers that should be flogged.

01/19/2019 - 10:29am It's not hate.  It's merely…

It's not hate.  It's merely pointing out that he did not live up to the expectations of a #1 overall recruit, and a guy who was supposed to be the best college DL prospect in a decade.  Maybe he was just never quite that good when it came to making the HS to college transition, maybe he was badly used here.   Regardless, he will be remembered as just one of a number of very good defensive linemen that have passed through here, but not as anything like a generational talent.  Bottom line, his career here is regarded by most people as at least mildly disappointing.  He's not necessarily to blame for that, but that's the fact.

01/19/2019 - 10:22am Gary has no chance of being …

Gary has no chance of being #2.  I can think of 5-6 DLs who will go before him right off the top of my head.  He is late first round at best.  

01/19/2019 - 10:21am Success in college doesn't…

Success in college doesn't always translate to being a good fit in the pros.  Bush is fast, but undersized and not a great pass coverer.  

01/17/2019 - 6:55am We'll never know, because,…

We'll never know, because, like all right-wing apologists, he scuttles when you turn on the light of facts.

01/17/2019 - 6:49am Nobody has the balls to fire…

Nobody has the balls to fire anyone any more.  Corrupt, despicable individuals who have behaved shamefully are always allowed to "resign".  Of course, in this case, the BoT is just as corrupt and despicable. 

01/15/2019 - 6:10pm Not sure what your point is…

Not sure what your point is.  Guys with less previous game experience than McCaffrey have won Heisman trophies.  

Patterson was good last year, but far from great.  Certainly not a difference maker at a top 10 level. And we have to wait until McCaffrey is a senior before we can expect him to do any better?  Seriously?

01/15/2019 - 5:57pm When your defense gives up…

When your defense gives up 62 points in your biggest game, a "pretty good" quarterback is not enough.

01/15/2019 - 5:51pm Harbaugh will pretend like…

Harbaugh will pretend like there is a competition all through spring and fall practice but, barring injury, Patterson will get the starting nod all season.   McCaffrey will never be able to play well enough to elevate himself above Patterson in Harbaugh's eyes.  He'll just have to wait until he's the oldest.  This isn't Alabama or Clemson, after all.

01/09/2019 - 6:21pm Clemson did something…

Clemson did something similar.  Replaced an established starter who had taken them to the playoff last season with a true freshman, and went 15-0.  

It should not take 3-4 years to develop a QB.  The best coaches have guys killing it by their 2nd year.

01/06/2019 - 3:37pm He is stubborn and overly…

He is stubborn and overly cautious.  He would rather run the ball up the middle on 3rd and 1 and not make it than throw on third and 1 and risk being criticized for not running it.  He does not understand the value of big plays.

01/06/2019 - 3:34pm Not just creativity, but not…

Not just creativity, but not being utterly predictable and telegraphing plays.  

01/04/2019 - 9:58am We always look “solid”. …

We always look “solid”. “Solid” gets you to 9-3/10-2. Been there, done that. It’s Harbaugh’s 5th year...a step up from “solid” is not too much to expect at this point. 

01/02/2019 - 2:11pm #1 outweighs all the others.

#1 outweighs all the others.

01/02/2019 - 1:55pm I loved Ian Bunting and…

I loved Ian Bunting and Tyrone Wheatley Jr. as an uncoverable duo at TE.

01/02/2019 - 6:19am If he thinks NFL fans are…

If he thinks NFL fans are going to be kinder, more generous and more patient, he may be in for a bit of a disappointment.

01/01/2019 - 7:53pm And our D still got toasted…

And our D still got toasted in both games. 0-2

01/01/2019 - 10:31am In one sentence you claim…

In one sentence you claim that it's an angry and unfair criticism that Harbaugh's teams fade at the end of the season, and right after that you say  "We needed to be at our best to win that game. We were not."  Exactly.  Because we collapsed at the end of the season, as we have the last three years.  Harbaugh's teams don't improve as the season goes on, and they fade when things get tough.  Injuries are no excuse.  Everyone has injuries by that point in the season.  OSU was without Bosa, and it didn't seem to hurt their pass rush.   Harbaugh doesn't recruit and develop players quickly enough, so he doesn't have guys ready to step in when a starter goes down.  

01/01/2019 - 10:24am The "ultimate goal" was not…

The "ultimate goal" was not that far off in 2016.  And it's looking just as far off in 2019.  

Bottom line, Harbaugh has reached his ceiling.  His offense was averaging almost 50 points a game in 2016 until we imploded.  He had supposedly the #1 defense in the country the last two years...until we imploded.  If he can't win championships with that, what more does he need that can be realistically expected?

01/01/2019 - 10:16am You lost me at the first…

You lost me at the first sentence.  Beating OSU and winning the division is not an absurd and unrealistic expectation.  Certainly not by the fourth season of a coach who's being paid 7 million a year.  We're not even talking about winning the conference, let alone going undefeated or winning the NC.  

Harbaugh has been here four years and has won nothing.  He has no championships, and not even any signature wins.  He's a good coach, but he has topped out at 10-2.  To answer your question, Swinney was 11-2 by his 4th year and has never looked back.  

01/01/2019 - 9:51am Ain't that the truth.  I've…

Ain't that the truth.  I've been called a "sparty troll" by dreary little fanboys who weren't even a glint in the poolboy's eye when I started following Michigan sports.   

Not only is it hard for them to accept opposing opinions, they can't live with the idea that their pollyanna version of Michigan football just isn't reality.

12/30/2018 - 8:29pm Well, so far, no one who has…

Well, so far, no one who has stayed has been champion of anything.  Not even their division.

12/28/2018 - 4:04pm Sounds nice, but after four…

Sounds nice, but after four years of losing to OSU and not even winning our division, with no significant improvement in sight, none of the variations on the theme of “enjoy the ride” are very inspiring.

12/24/2018 - 7:48am This is going to happen…

This is going to happen every year from now on, as predicted by the wiser among us three years ago.  There will always be off-season talk about some NFL team coming hard after Harbaugh, and in response, everyone on this board trying to reassure themselves that it can't happen, making lists of reasons why he would never leave, reasons that will only be valid until they aren't.  

Don't see any way Harbaugh bolts this year, but if he ever does, it will be unexpected, and for reasons that make no sense to you.  Count on that.  

12/22/2018 - 9:45pm Please don't say he's got a …

Please don't say he's got a "mean streak".

12/22/2018 - 9:43pm No one was worried about…

No one was worried about that back in 2013 either.  And when Harbaugh started with Tim Drevno as OL coach, everyone on this board was raving about the return of "manball".  We all know how that worked out.  The hype has worn out.  Only results on the field against real competition matter.

 

12/22/2018 - 4:27pm Harbaugh didn't say "This…

Harbaugh didn't say "This class is the start of great offensive lines year after year".  Someone on this board did, and that's what I was responding to.  Try to keep up.

12/22/2018 - 4:26pm Yes, keep saying that…

Yes, keep saying that nonsense if it makes you feel better.  But we both know that what I said is true.

12/22/2018 - 2:15pm Harbaugh raved about Evans…

Harbaugh raved about Evans and Onwenu as true freshmen and said they were both going to be really special players.  Onwenu on either side of the ball.  Evans was great catching the ball out of the backfield, according to Harbaugh.  

So no, not necessarily.  

12/22/2018 - 2:09pm Are you talking about Rumler…

Are you talking about Rumler, or Kyle Kalis?

12/22/2018 - 2:08pm That's exactly what people…

That's exactly what people here said about:

Kyle Bosch

Chris Fox

Patrick Kugler

Logan Tuley-Tilman

Dan Samuelson

David Dawson

 

Back in 2013.  

12/20/2018 - 11:42am Sorry, but sick of hearing…

Sorry, but sick of hearing that the players aren’t seeing a reasonable financial benefit from their time playing football at Michigan. Leaving aside years of free room and board, and tuition (if they care about that), the guys we’re talking about are looking at big future financial payoffs from the NFL as a result of the coaching, conditioning, game experience and media exposure they’ve gotten in college. Cripes, that’s WHY they’re sitting out the bowl games. 

Thought experiment: Ask Devin Bush what he hopes to sign for in the NFL after three years at Michigan, and then ask him what he would have expected financially if he had tried to go straight to the NFL with no college. Then ask if he feels exploited and cheated by the college football machine.

12/18/2018 - 7:54pm Because 18 and 19 year olds…

Because 18 and 19 year olds shouldn't be playing an 18 game season.

12/18/2018 - 5:29pm "some people are just being…

"some people are just being honest and getting negged for it"

Story of this board, dude.