|03/21/2019 - 7:35pm||I agree 100% with this.||
I agree 100% with this.
|03/21/2019 - 7:33pm||Maybe / maybe not. How many…||
Maybe / maybe not. How many people that are gainfully employed work a second job under the table? A few to be sure, but not many.
Why take the chance with your career (not to mention the IRS) if you can get paid above board?
|03/21/2019 - 7:00pm||Not when they are speaking…||
Not when they are speaking off the record.
|03/19/2019 - 9:20pm||Mo’ Wagners||
|03/16/2019 - 9:55pm||Change “Kentucky, Kansas,…||
Change “Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, or Arizona” to the “Suns, Cavs, Knicks, or Lakers” and change “whoever drops the biggest bag” to whoever wins the draft lottery.
then you have got it.
|03/15/2019 - 10:23am||Woodson doesn't own the #2…||
Woodson doesn't own the #2 and would have no reason to get paid for UM jerseys with the #2 anymore so than Herman Moore would expect to get paid for whoever is wearing #84 for the Lions in 2019.
Woodson would and should, however, get paid for people buying #2 jerseys with the name Woodson on them.
|03/15/2019 - 10:18am||I disagree with you on the…||
I disagree with you on the NIL rights impact but I agree with you 100% in terms of "politics". I have no idea how someone would turn this into a partisan political debate (are there even left/right view points on this topic? I have never heard that before).
That guy was trying to create "politics" out of people's posts.
|03/15/2019 - 5:14am||What is wrong with a booster…||
What is wrong with a booster giving money to athletes outright?
If you substitute a few words: “one American giving money outright to another American in exchange for services” then you have just described the U.S. economic system.
|03/15/2019 - 5:09am||People on this blog way…||
People on this blog way overstate the Alabama alumni base. Michigan has 10-20 alums that each have more wealth than the entire Alabama alumni base combined.
|03/12/2019 - 1:55pm||I am willing to go on record…||
I am willing to go on record and bet you any amount of money up to and including $1,000 that the NCAA will still be around in 5 years (hell, I will even give year 6 for free) and that college revenue sports will be generating money at an equal or higher rate at that time. This will be true whether college athletes are paid or not.
i am happy to exchange contact details and put it in writing if you agree.
|03/11/2019 - 2:44pm||I think that Neil Lomax is…||
I think that Neil Lomax is the better comparison. Stafford is much better than George ever was in the NFL.
|03/11/2019 - 2:40pm||Chubb is probably my…||
Chubb is probably my favorite non-Lions, non-former Michigan player in the NFL. I have seen a couple of stories on him and his background, he really seems like a great kid. Maybe the Browns are banking on Chubb's humility and work ethic rubbing off on Hunt.
Not to mention that Chubb is an absolute stud RB, I predict he will be in the top 3 in rushing next year.
|03/11/2019 - 2:16pm||Wow! Michigan really did…||
Wow! Michigan really did miss out on Logan Brown. Kid hasn't even practiced with Wisconsin yet and NFL teams are already trading for him!!!
|03/08/2019 - 6:05pm||you put way too much thought…||
you put way too much thought into that. That Red is Blue guy is a mess.
Always trying to prove he is the most moral guy around.
|03/08/2019 - 6:01pm||it is shocking that…||
it is shocking that Tennessee is paying players!
I can’t even imagine where Pruett could have learned how to orchestrate that
|03/08/2019 - 5:58pm||“College sports will still…||
“College sports will still be great...”
Actually, no they won’t. They would be a shell of what they are now. I want top tier athletes suiting up for Michigan and it’s rivals.
Luckily, society agrees with me and disagrees with you - and society will win.
|03/08/2019 - 5:19pm||uhmmm, actually there is…||
uhmmm, actually there is another choice and most of the coveted players are taking it. You get the “education” along side money from the bagmen.
sad that people are forced to turn to the black market to get their market value.
|03/08/2019 - 5:15pm||Straw man? You questioned…||
Straw man? You questioned the intrinsic value of the payments to the players being public.
What is it that you think we are referring to with the public vs non-public payments? Maybe the wording wasn’t clear and we should have said “above board”.
Well, in case you did not understand, we are indeed talking about bagmen, agents and other creatures of the college sports black market.
|03/08/2019 - 2:57pm||Yes, as Americans who are…||
Yes, as Americans who are not NCAA athletes they are already covered by this. In fact, we are covered by it already.
You can pay anyone in the marching band to be in your commercial. Have at it.
|03/08/2019 - 2:54pm||Are you crack? You don't…||
Seriously? Are you on crack? You don't think Michigan's monied fanbase will pay for Michigan football. Look up these three names:
Those three people can and will spend more money on football than the entire Alabama and Georgia alumni bases combined.
Hell - I would throw in a couple of grand every year.
|03/08/2019 - 2:50pm||Hopefully the lifetime…||
Hopefully the lifetime health coverage will pay for the long term medical issues caused by playing football.
|03/08/2019 - 2:49pm||And if the players tell the…||
And if the players tell the NCAA they won't play anymore without being able to sell their own image rights, I'm sure it would happen tomorrow.
They know the players are worth it. They won't be able to get their $5 billion tv contracts and $20 million payouts without the players.
|03/08/2019 - 2:46pm||Oh yeah, you think ESPN will…||
Oh yeah, you think ESPN will pay $5 billion to show guys that look like me and you play football?
|03/08/2019 - 2:41pm||No, bribes imply an illegal…||
No, bribes imply an illegal misallocation of funds of a 3rd party's resources (be it taxpayers or company treasury - like in your example).
Bagmen paying players are arms length deals between two people of their own free will. They are trading money for services - free market.
And there are no laws against this - just NCAA eligibility rules. Although the FBI probe has blurred this since the lying and scheming (and lack of tax paying) can create secondary racketeering crimes despite the underlying transaction not being illegal.
|03/08/2019 - 2:25pm||You sir, are a narcissistic…||
You sir, are a narcissistic idiot. You don't decide what generates value for society - consumers via the free market do that.
I am not saying that our society has its priorities in the right place but we clearly give a LOT of value to playing sports. And yes these guys do have value - the rules force them to go the black market to realize that value or to forego it altogether in order to play it straight.
|03/08/2019 - 2:20pm||Fine - then make the limit…||
Fine - then make the limit 85 players plus a practice squad. How is that a difficult problem?
|03/08/2019 - 2:16pm||So you are ok with these…||
So you are ok with these guys having to get their money from bagmen and worse? They shouldn't be able to get their fair value in a legal and ethical manner?
And the IRS might have answer to your question about the value of having these payments being above board.
|03/08/2019 - 2:14pm||The NFL is a monopoly in…||
The NFL is a monopoly in terms of professional football.
The NFL is saving tens of millions in terms of training and development - not to mention the hype factor of the draft and players coming into the league.
Anybody who threatens this will get squashed by the NFL.
If NCAA Football no longer serves the purpose of the NFL, they will set up their own development league and college football will look more like college baseball. Still a good product - but missing the top tier of talent.
|03/08/2019 - 2:04pm||Gotta love "Kevin 13"…||
Gotta love "Kevin 13" telling these athletes what they should and shouldn't make. How would you like someone telling you what you should be happy with?
That would be a great trade off for people with no marketable athletic skills like me and you but it is a shitty trade off for people whose market value is in the tens of thousands (and even hundreds of thousands for some of them).
|03/08/2019 - 1:56pm||Wrong!!!! Either you are a…||
Wrong!!!! Either you are a moran or you have been in the cave the last 30 years.. Do you not realize how much players are getting from bagmen, agents, "sports marketers" and the like? And no, it is not just internet speculation. The FBI investigation has proven this beyond a reasonable doubt.
The black market is currently filling in the gap between scholarship benefits and free market value. Making a rule against someone getting money doesn't mean they have no value. The free market always finds a way to fill in the gaps.
Just make it legal so these kids don't have to go to the black market to get their due. Nothing wrong with people paying these kids money based on their athletic ability.
|03/08/2019 - 1:21pm||How are Louisville and…||
How are Louisville and Boston College "smaller" schools? Less traditional programs than Michigan, sure, but those are both ACC schools (that often show up in the top 25) with plenty of football history and tradition. To my knowledge, the ACC is still P5 and a mega-dollar conference and you had to reach back 3 recruiting cycles to get those terrible examples.
How about the fact that just 5 schools (Bama, Georgia, OSU, Clemson and LSU) have snagged more than 50% of the 5 star recruits, in aggregate, over the last 3 recruiting cycles. Add in another 7 teams (Auburn, USC, Oklahoma, Michigan, PSU, Texas A&M and Texas) and you are now talking 90% of all available 5 stars.
The listing you give are all P5 conference schools (except for Boise State and despite being a perennial top 25ish team - BSU has never cracked the top 49 in recruiting rankings) that got a 4 star or two. How does that constitute any semblance of balance whatsoever?
When was the last time Michigan lost a recruit to a G5 conference school? I don't see how playing time transfers would count. They emphasizes the point that the G5 get the P5 scraps even if those scraps sometimes bloom late.
|03/08/2019 - 11:37am||I love that highlight and…||
I love that highlight and can't wait for Zeb to join the team. But the kid guarding him looked like a 16 year old version of me trying to play defense.
|03/08/2019 - 11:29am||Let competition and free…||
Let competition and free enterprise figure out how much these guys should get - not people like me and you speculating.
|03/08/2019 - 11:25am||Outside of the NCAA…||
Outside of the NCAA mandating that Bama gets first pick of all 5 stars, there is nothing that could happen which would further tilt the playing field towards the blue bloods - in particular the schools that are already paying players under the table.
So at worst, allowing name and image rights will keep things the same and schools like Michigan with huge money cannons that try to keep things above the rules will benefit. At best, smaller schools will be able to round up enough local / alumni support to snag some quality players.
As I note above, these are rights held by every resident of the U.S. - even people in jail - so I don't even understand how this is a discussion. But yet here we are...
|03/08/2019 - 10:55am||Is that worse than rich…||
Is that worse than rich alumni supporters giving brown paper bags full of casino chips?
|03/08/2019 - 10:48am||I will be first in line to…||
It really can't be any more weighted than it is now for the blue bloods. Alabama has put top 100 recruits on grey shirts in recent years while other schools can't get top 500 players.
If money is the driver - it could actually help some of the G5 schools. A low 4 star player would do better financially as the "savior" in a small town MAC school than to be a 5th string reserve at Bama or OSU.
Btw/ I will be first in line to get a Khaleke Hudson shirt!
|03/08/2019 - 10:47am||The NFL has killed off every…||
The NFL has killed off every attempt to put an alternative league together. The NFL loves having a free multi-billion hype and development program pumping out 21-23 year old football players.
You do make a good point about how much of college football revenue is due to the school branding and how much is related to the players. 50/50 is probably generous - I am sure you could make an argument that it is 75% school branding and 25% players. Whatever the numbers are - it is not 99%/1% which is the current compensation allocation (and I am rounding up when I say 1% goes to the players).
|03/08/2019 - 10:41am||"multi-million dollar job"? …||
"multi-million dollar job"? There are maybe 1-2% of D1 college football players getting multi-million dollar NFL contracts. It does indeed work out great for them - what about the rest of them?
What about the guys that blow their knees out? I don't see any "GoFundMe" programs for them.
|03/08/2019 - 10:33am||So in other words, NCAA…||
So in other words, NCAA student-athletes would now have the same name and image rights as every other person in the U.S.
Sad that it has taken this long but hopefully this now gets fixed...
|03/06/2019 - 10:30pm||Yak is getting his just due…||
Yak is getting his just due as a great asst coach but I think Saddi is criminally underrated.
Does anybody remember the 2016 Moneyball League seems story? According to Sam Webb, back in 2016, Saddi came in and thought the team would was soft. So he takes them to this Moneyball League up in Lansing and our guys basically get run out of the gym by the MSU players. After a few games, our guys basically stop showing up because they are intimidated.
Saddi makes the point that if they can’t compete with them in Moneyball, how will they compete in a B1G game? A few months later, Maverick Morgan makes his white collar comment and the rest is history. What are the chances our current players would get run out of that Moneyball gym or any other gym by other college basketball players? Pretty close to zero and I think Saddi is a big part of that...
Plus, look at the development of our bigs since he got to Ann Arbor!
|03/05/2019 - 6:07pm||Did you seriously confuse Ty…||
Did you seriously confuse Ty Law and Shonte Peoples? And yet you posted this trash even before you took 15 seconds on Google to confirm?
Ty Law was a model student athlete and Michigan and, to my knowledge, a model citizen in the NFL. I would seriously suggest you ask the mods to delete this post lest some other moran believe your idiocy about Ty Law.
|03/05/2019 - 6:04pm||I remember like it was…||
I remember like it was yesterday and he was absolutely telling the truth - the cops were undercover plain clothes copy that broke into his car and never identified themselves as cops. Btw/ they never found whatever they were looking for either.
If that whole thing happened in 2019, there would be campus protest.
|02/28/2019 - 8:13pm||Does anyone still give a…||
Does anyone still give a shit about weed?
|02/25/2019 - 9:12pm||Zero chance this guy was…||
Zero chance this guy was ever married or even has had a girlfriend/boyfriend in his sad life.
|02/21/2019 - 2:33am||Gotta love folks who can…||
Gotta love folks who can point one example and make it a rule across thousands of other people.
yeah, DTR is a great athlete who could have probably been a 4 star at multiple positions at a highly visible “national HS football program”. Does that mean every QB that happens to backup a 5 star needs to be DTR in order to excel?
Of course, we have yet to see DTR actually excel at QB in college- so that is still up in the air.
|02/20/2019 - 9:07pm||No way he stays at 700 on…||
No way he stays at 700 on 247, he will pop this summer at the Opening- end up as a top 150 overall and top 10 QB.
I literally had a screaming match with Maizen or one of his star-gazing minions when JD committed - the idiot poster couldn’t comprehend that this kid’s rating was being held back by being Rattler’s backup and that he would pop once he starting getting exposure.
|02/15/2019 - 8:09am||So who are these great…||
So who are these great reserve QBs at OSU right now? Why don’t you take a gander at their roster?
|02/15/2019 - 8:05am||We have had this exact same…||
We have had this exact same discussion at the beginning of the new recruiting cycle every single year since Harbaugh took over.
3 of the 4 years turned out fine - the other year was disappointing but not catastrophic.
This is something to worry about in October, not in February.
|02/14/2019 - 3:56pm||This has literally just…||
This has literally just happened with the FBI investigations. They got proof of payments and even some folks to plead guilty.
Nobody cares. And when nobody cares about breaking the rules, maybe the problem is the rules.
|02/13/2019 - 9:34pm||yeah, I remember Marc…||
yeah, I remember Marc Spindler on the Lions - great player.
hard to imagine top 30 player going to Pitt, but you never know.