Toby Flenderson

January 11th, 2018 at 5:19 PM ^

Nah bud, I'm on no high horse. I admit I was among people who predicted MSU would go back to mediocrity after 2016, and I can admit I was wrong about that. Dantonio is a prick and I want to beat him bad, but I have seen him lose assistants and continue to beat Michigan as well as other elite programs in the Big ten (OSU and PSU). He is a solid coach.

Toby Flenderson

January 11th, 2018 at 5:16 PM ^

I'm not defending his honor, but I notice the same people (including me, I am not absolved) ride the "State is going back to misery, yipee!" train, absolutely lose it when we lose to MSU in the regular season (which I did). Dantonio has shown he is a top notch coach in this league, MSU might fall off once ever 3-4 seasons, but he built them into a consisten 10-11 win program. 

Alumnus93

January 11th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^

Some truths....

-Carr should have been removed when he fell enough behind OSU when he kept consistently losing to Tressel.... thats EXACTLY what Canham did, when Elliot couldn't beat Woody, so he took Woody's former assistant and the one guy who could beat him, in BO.

- Dantoni was considered at the time but they passed, yet he was the one guy who could beat Tressel.

-Dantoni further behaves like an ass, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THIS, and his destiny was cheated.

snarling wolverine

January 11th, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^

Well, it's not like ex-assistant coaches always fare well against their predecessors.  Saban's assistants have never beaten him, and Coach K's in basketball are similar.

Dantonio's head coaching track record was modest (18-17 at Cincy) when MSU hired him.  They got lucky with him.  They're punching well above their weight class right now (as evidenced by the fact that they're getting poached by FSU here for lateral moves).  Spartan fans should be living this up for all it's worth because I doubt they can replace Dantonio with a comparable coach.

I don't think Lloyd needed to be fired, but we just should have hired Miles in 2007.  But whatever, it's water under the bridge now that we have Harbaugh.

canzior

January 11th, 2018 at 5:13 PM ^

they did get lucky..but i do believe there is some correlation with their rise and the sinking if Michigan's football program. If Michigan stays an 8/9 win team from 2008 until 2014..do they have that type of rise?

MGoGrendel

January 11th, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^

I've been reading that we are hopeful that two will leave so we can improve our offense.  Are the coaches at MSU and ND in the same boat as ours (we'll be better of with out them)?  Or are these good coaches they are losing?

I ask because I don't know anything about the MSU and ND coaches.

oriental andrew

January 11th, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^

Seriously, it happens to most teams every year, right? Except that they're not the "glamour" positions like OC and DC. We're "losing" Frey and Pep, at the very least. An outsider might suggest that we're going to be worse next year because of it. We'll always put the positive spin on it as homers - rightly or wrongly, or a little bit of each. 

conradb42

January 11th, 2018 at 3:43 PM ^

I can't wait til our coaches were being poached cuz they are doing an amazing job and not because Harbaugh strongly suggests they find somewhere to land on their feet.

conradb42

January 11th, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^

Obviously, although not obvious, I was half kidding. Wheatley was a hot name to leave, Zordich too. Partridge was approached as was Dr. Blitz. 

The taste of it all just isn't right. We are waiting around for 1 or 2 of our coaches to leave while celebrating rivals' coaches leaving because it helps bring them down to our level.

AZBlue

January 11th, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^

With many of these coaches from Spartan fans - (obviously much more hate after the 3-9 year) but he certainly made chicken salad from what they had at DE this past year.

Could be more than usual challenge for a MSU staff that has been extremely consistent aside from Narduzzi .... at least compared to ND (or M) that have had regular staff turnover.

jmblue

January 11th, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^

It is nice to note while MSU has been raided twice now by an FSU program coming off a .500 season, we're apparently going to fend off Alabama for Partridge's services.