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There’s a bigger reason why…

There’s a bigger reason why MLB (and all the leagues) wants this to go away: They partnered with the sportsbooks to create the giant mess that is sports betting in America in 2024. Hope the marginal additional revenue was worth it!

We’re going to need to juice…

We’re going to need to juice the stats. MasonCat and Hammering Panda deployment on the goal line.

I don’t know if you’ve…

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but it’s good times lately, and this makes people feel good and confident. Also Michigan will have one of the best defenses in the country whereas OSU still hasn’t fixed their OL and has downgraded at QB and WR. 

There’s no guarantee Michigan wins obviously but no need to be a Nervous Nelly about it. 

Think he’ll go a little…

Think he’ll go a little higher than most on here are saying. 3rd/4th round.

He’s not going to run a crazy 40 but this isn’t a Mike Hart draft situation athletically. 

This will also get smoked in…

This will also get smoked in court. 

And there are Indiana,…

And there are Indiana, Nebraska, Arizona State, Northwestern, Coastal Carolina, etc etc fans who feel the same way about the guys Michigan brings in. 

The game is the game. 

Please don’t mess this up EA…

Please don’t mess this up EA!!

The schools are the NCAA…

The schools are the NCAA. One would hope a smaller group of schools can be more nimble but any replacement of the NCAA will largely be a rebranding effort. 

I think the draft decision…

I think the draft decision returnees (Moore, Paige, Edwards, Stewart) stop Michigan from breaking the record. 

The simplest and most…

The simplest and most accurate thing would be to just call it the Jack Harbaugh coaching tree. 

Sherrone could just keep the…

Sherrone could just keep the Ravens defense structure going with new coaches. MacDonald and Minter are great but it’s not just them, it’s also the system. Think Michigan can benefit from slightly different scheme/playcalling within the system year-to-year as well  

Also this scheme is spreading a bit so a larger talent pool to choose from. Giants run it with Wink who the Harbaughs know well; the UCLA to USC DC is a Ravens guy, too. Jim takes Minter with him and that’s another organization to hire from. 

Edit: Wink just resigned from the Giants so some same scheme guys are available. 

Dantonio would not because…

Dantonio would not because Michigan is way up instead of way down. I don't agree that they're set back 10 years... even that doesn't guarantee the wins for Michigan. 

I'm still not going to be "concerned" about any coach walking into that situation until very clearly presented on the field evidence otherwise.

Thanks to Cade for his time…

Thanks to Cade for his time here but sure seems like there’s some entitlement there. 

Can’t be easy to publicly lose your starting job like this. Then again, guys get beat out all the time and you never hear all this counter-narrative stuff. 

Iowa State being the game…

Iowa State being the game that mattered most bc Michigan won the trident. 

I hate the current IP…

I hate the current IP franchise model but it is going to be more stubborn to kill than we think.

The studios are able to push the movies onto enough screens internationally that even the bombs mostly end up breaking even or making a little money. 

I wrote that year off as the…

I wrote that year off as the one true “rebuild” year under Harbaugh. They were so damn young and had a few weak recruiting classes prior to ‘16. 

That game was still miserable to watch them blow.

Speight also went from a…

Speight also went from a mostly veteran 2016 line to an extremely young one in 2017. Those guys got good in 2018/19 but weren’t there yet. 

Shea’s mild regression went alongside a big change in scheme to first year Gattis of Army game fame. 

I’m not worried about this being a thing. 
 

Good for him he got healthy,…

Good for him he got healthy, got on the field, and got to the NFL. 

Not sure Michigan’s doctors didn’t clear guy who was always injured and never practiced is much of an indictment. 

I was whatever about the…

I was whatever about the bowl record until TCU (some tough matchups, hangovers from missing out on team goals, opt outs…I had excuses) but I think Jim must handle the schedule differently or something.

They always talk about how many reps young guys get in bowl prep. Makes sense to get everyone healthy but I wonder if it’s too much of a lean into developing the whole roster vs game specific stuff. Just a hypothesis because I have no idea!

I feel as though we are…

I feel as though we are still owed a season where Nico Collins gets 150 targets

Definitely plenty of room…

Definitely plenty of room for both with Michigan using NIL to expand beyond 85 “scholarship” players. 

I agree with you and Jim has…

I agree with you and Jim has said that’s his goal 100 times. That said, I could see that being in a Jack Harbaugh role for Jay down the road - be around the team, coach a little bit, occasionally remind your son about the benefits of various run plays with pulling guards. 

Guarantee there are guys on…

Guarantee there are guys on every team betting in states where it’s readily available. Probably a decent number betting on college/NFL football even if not in a points shaving way.  

This is absolutely going to be a mess. 

Recruiting service presents…

Recruiting service presents data to say recruiting services are better than ever, an annual event. 

Mock drafts are the laziest…

Mock drafts are the laziest and worst content sports fans get. 

Not counting out our young…

Not counting out our young OL either but it was nice to add some all conference senior captains to the room. 

FYI the YouTube offering…

FYI the YouTube offering cuts down to 2 simultaneous screens. You may be watching together in which case not an issue. 

The good news is they’ve…

The good news is they’ve never had an issue with a receivers coach with a drinking problem before. 

Something changed and my bet…

Something changed and my bet is it’s NIL-related given other things are relatively constant (Harbaugh to NFL scuttlebutt, mostly the same coaches and new guys haven’t been here long, success on the field). Could just be how Michigan is messaging it, could be other schools scaling back or failing to come through on promises, could be the checks cleared, I dunno. 

I never bought that ‘23 class was about Harbaugh to the NFL since that has been a constant and it’s not like people aren’t saying that to the current ‘croots. 

Look at the hands, there are…

Look at the hands, there are plenty of matrix glitches. 

Not being willing/able to…

Not being willing/able to pay the buyout is bad enough but they flew the guy in and had him next to Freeman at a hockey game. Suggests delusion or dysfunction to me.

As someone who has paid for…

As someone who has paid for both sites at various times in the past: Both guys operate in good faith and do real work of their own (OFTEN not the case) so “beef” is dumb. 

How are we supposed to…

How are we supposed to continue on as a society with the A&W bear wearing pants? Is nothing sacred?

Gattis at Iowa needs to…

Gattis at Iowa needs to happen. 

Fans demand wholesale change for a decade, it happens, they find out there’s a whole new way to be terrible at offense. 

I don’t even buy that he’s…

I don’t even buy that he’s an excellent receivers coach vs got to coach some excellent receivers. 

Miami’s WRs and passing game regressed greatly this year. Michigan’s WRs consistently under performed while he was here. Bama’s were great but he was there for one season and those players were also great pre- and post-Gattis. 

Hope he shows out!

Didn't…

Hope he shows out!

Didn't do much with his targets this year but hopefully that corrects itself for him with a larger sample size.

Edwards was recruiting…

Edwards was recruiting Braelon Allen, pretty sure he’s good with sharing carries. 

Normally I’m with you and…

Normally I’m with you and think that guy just doesn’t want the smoke.

Here the guy has legitimate Olympic aspirations and, for that to happen, he necessarily can only get so big. 

Give Jim Knowles credit. He…

Give Jim Knowles credit. He pissed down his leg the entire game, it just didn’t pool up underneath him until the second half. 

Unproductive coach behavior…

Unproductive coach behavior but also not noteworthy. Izzo, Fran, Underwood look like this all the time naming a few in the league off the top of my head. 

The Wisconsin thing obviously can’t happen again but he’s not going to get fired for yelling, and shouldn’t be. 

Seems like his #1 thing is a…

Seems like his #1 thing is a clear path to starting as a freshman (not necessarily NIL) but your point stands that he was never going to Michigan with JJ on campus.

It’s hard for me to think…

Double post, whoops!

It’s hard for me to think…

It’s hard for me to think Kirk is holding back Iowa when, for all intents and purposes, he is Iowa football at this point.

The offense has been terrible lately but I just don’t see a higher ceiling for them as a program than being a 10 win Big Ten also ran. 

This is Don Brown shit…

This is Don Brown shit. Reminder Day tried to hire Don AFTER 2018, this is what he wants. 

Good guys just have to do to them what Wisconsin did to Michigan with Don Brown in 2019-20. 

Take it up with Jim…

Take it up with Jim. Programs pick their own nominees.

On the margins, sure,…

On the margins, sure, Michigan and others can get/keep more good walk-ons this way.

There are various restrictions on walk-ons and guys looking rosters/depth charts so the upside is somewhat limited.  Not sure of all the restrictions but believe a guy can't official visit then walk-on in addition to the training table/support benefits others have mentioned above. 

Everyone got to party…

Everyone got to party Saturday but feels like the EDGE stuff is sorting itself out. Live I thought they did a good job deploying guys in different roles, snap counts tell the larger tale.

We’ve got the archetype big/fast DUDES pairing in Morris and Okie, Moore is on the way to being one or both of those dudes, I actually really like Harrell in this defense as a linebackery edge setter who is a plus blitzer and stunter.

 

*Ahem* you mean the…

*Ahem* you mean the Turnoveralls?

Better make sure our NIL…

Better make sure our NIL program doesn’t involve money then either. People do all sorts of bad stuff for those silly dollars. 

Believe this is year 5 for…

Believe this is year 5 for Bowman if I can count so he may still be an option in 2023 if he wants to be a backup Michigan QB forever.  

Began his career in ‘18 and had an injury redshirt in ‘19 according to his Michigan bio.