When his knee hits the ground and he clearly pivots to stretch for the goalline, he establishes himself as a runner. If the momentum of his catch carried him across the goalline, I would agree with you. As it is, the stop of downward momentum and the change of direction shows me he has control of the catch.
Wisconsin outgained UMD by 200 yards and had an even turnover margin when they beat Maryland 38-13. Hornibrook threw for 225 yards, compared to Peters 145.
They return 4 of the front 7, and the two defensive tackles they lose are only slightly better than the backups they return. They get back John Reid who started at corner last year and tore his ACL before the season, and also the corner who plays field when they go to nickel.
The only place on defense they really don't return a bunch of experienced talent is safety.
On offense they will be more talented than Michigan everywhere but tight end.
But it is 100% true that Saban, Meyer, Petersen, Franklin, and Fisher had established elite rosters with records to match by the end of their year 3. Elite coaches that hadn't are few and far between.
-I explained why. Dabo Sweeney is the only coach in the last year who has won a championship who didn't have an elite team of his own players in place. Saban's young players won a championship in year 3. Fisher's young players won a championship in year 3. Urban Meyer's young players won a championship in year 3. Barkley and McSorley were Franklin recruits in his transition class and led to a B10 championship in year 3.
Not saying that Harbaugh is doomed to a Bo Pelini at Nebraska purgatory, but most of the elite coaches at traditional powers had established an elite team by year 3.
-You are taking my QB statements to say something ludicrous. I am not saying anything about QB depth charts in general. I am saying that in the current Michigan depth chart, there are no good QBs and that none on the roster are likely to make a big difference in this offense. Like Florida or Tennessee, there just aren't good options. However, on both of those teams, they apparently believe their highly-recruited RS Fr QB is good enough to give a shot.
Michigan didn't have it when their starting QB was in. What do you think are the chances Michigan's offense has it next year when he is back?
And really, the narrative of year 3 being the year when big things become apparent tends to be a real thing. Saban, Meyer, Fisher, even Franklin used the cache of a traditional program to build an elite team of their own players by year 3. The only guy who didn't follow that path of immediate elite success was Dabo Sweeney, and I would say he has some institutional advantages not afforded to Harbaugh.
So I'm not saying Michigan can do better than Harbaugh, or that Harbaugh is not a really good coach. But I did expect more by year 3.
I tend to be a rain cloud, so while I generally agree with the sentiment of this post, I also feel like the reaction to the negative nancies in the fanbase have caused some serious revisionism.
Why are so many people putting so much impact on a QB who had regressed to the point of performance similar to JOK at PSU and a WR with 149 career yards that came on pretty routine catches and wasn't that good at blocking.
This is not to say that those injuries didn't hurt to some degree, but add those guys in and this offense is still a terrible mess and PSU still destroys Michigan.
And my disappointment in this team isn't just a snapshot of a struggling team, but the projection of a program that is going to continue to struggle a bit. Basically, this team doesn't appear to have any saviors at QB or tackle to make what appears to be an extremely difficult schedule in 2018.
PSU will lose Barkley and Hamilton, but they basically everyone else and repace those two with a former 5* in Miles Sanders and the number 3 WR in the 2018 class. MSU returns everyone but Allen and Frey, and OSU stays loaded.
So yeah, 9-3 or 8-4 and 3/4 in the division sucks, but minus a big turnaround down the stretch (a win at OSU, maybe), reasonable projections put 2018 around that as well.
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You say he is 6'10, but in that clip against Dailey, he looks about the same size.
Are my eyes fooling me? He looks about 6'8, 210.
They return 4 of the front 7, and the two defensive tackles they lose are only slightly better than the backups they return. They get back John Reid who started at corner last year and tore his ACL before the season, and also the corner who plays field when they go to nickel.
The only place on defense they really don't return a bunch of experienced talent is safety.
On offense they will be more talented than Michigan everywhere but tight end.
But it is 100% true that Saban, Meyer, Petersen, Franklin, and Fisher had established elite rosters with records to match by the end of their year 3. Elite coaches that hadn't are few and far between.
-I explained why. Dabo Sweeney is the only coach in the last year who has won a championship who didn't have an elite team of his own players in place. Saban's young players won a championship in year 3. Fisher's young players won a championship in year 3. Urban Meyer's young players won a championship in year 3. Barkley and McSorley were Franklin recruits in his transition class and led to a B10 championship in year 3.
Not saying that Harbaugh is doomed to a Bo Pelini at Nebraska purgatory, but most of the elite coaches at traditional powers had established an elite team by year 3.
-You are taking my QB statements to say something ludicrous. I am not saying anything about QB depth charts in general. I am saying that in the current Michigan depth chart, there are no good QBs and that none on the roster are likely to make a big difference in this offense. Like Florida or Tennessee, there just aren't good options. However, on both of those teams, they apparently believe their highly-recruited RS Fr QB is good enough to give a shot.
Until then they are a zero dimension offense. And the outlook is a bit grim for 2018.
Michigan didn't have it when their starting QB was in. What do you think are the chances Michigan's offense has it next year when he is back?
And really, the narrative of year 3 being the year when big things become apparent tends to be a real thing. Saban, Meyer, Fisher, even Franklin used the cache of a traditional program to build an elite team of their own players by year 3. The only guy who didn't follow that path of immediate elite success was Dabo Sweeney, and I would say he has some institutional advantages not afforded to Harbaugh.
So I'm not saying Michigan can do better than Harbaugh, or that Harbaugh is not a really good coach. But I did expect more by year 3.
I tend to be a rain cloud, so while I generally agree with the sentiment of this post, I also feel like the reaction to the negative nancies in the fanbase have caused some serious revisionism.
Why are so many people putting so much impact on a QB who had regressed to the point of performance similar to JOK at PSU and a WR with 149 career yards that came on pretty routine catches and wasn't that good at blocking.
This is not to say that those injuries didn't hurt to some degree, but add those guys in and this offense is still a terrible mess and PSU still destroys Michigan.
And my disappointment in this team isn't just a snapshot of a struggling team, but the projection of a program that is going to continue to struggle a bit. Basically, this team doesn't appear to have any saviors at QB or tackle to make what appears to be an extremely difficult schedule in 2018.
PSU will lose Barkley and Hamilton, but they basically everyone else and repace those two with a former 5* in Miles Sanders and the number 3 WR in the 2018 class. MSU returns everyone but Allen and Frey, and OSU stays loaded.
So yeah, 9-3 or 8-4 and 3/4 in the division sucks, but minus a big turnaround down the stretch (a win at OSU, maybe), reasonable projections put 2018 around that as well.