what about van jefferson?
Not sure if this is truly forum worthy, but with all the talk about shea patterson transferring here and then subsequently deontay anderson not, I noticed there hasn't been any talk about jefferson transferring to michigan. anybody know what the case is with him?
December 16th, 2017 at 4:47 PM ^
A friend of a sister's boyfriends, uncle's pediatrist said he was still deciding.
So like, maybe that's why his decision hasn't been posted yet.
December 17th, 2017 at 3:53 AM ^
Be sure to put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.
Abraham Lincoln
December 16th, 2017 at 4:47 PM ^
He and Deontay Anderson are likely in the same boat with being unable to transfer in due to academics.
December 16th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^
Not to play the academic superiority card, but I guess I am, but it is a sad testament to ole miss' academics and I wish kids would really take that into account when picking a school as it seems that some of them, not all, give lip service to the whole academics part.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^
I've been trying to guess what the problem is here. I know the NCAA has minimum requirements for high school graduates, but what's the problem here? Their grades are low enough to not transfer credits here but high enough to count as passing? As in they could be a junior with a terrible GPA at Ole Miss or a mid-year Freshman here at UMich. As far as I know Michigan doesn't have transfer requirement minimums, but I guess admissions could say no if they really wanted to. Those are the only guesses I've had that makes sense to me. I can't imagine it's possible that they're failing so many classes that they can't transfer but still qualify to play at Ole Miss. Anybody know/have a better guess?
December 16th, 2017 at 5:08 PM ^
they might not have the taken the proper classes (for example 1 year of foreign language) to get in. I doubt these guys are failing classes, more likely that they don't have the prerequisites.
December 16th, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^
My understanding is that it is classes and the grades in said classes that the admission looks at. For instance, they may accept a class and say it can count towards a major at Michigan, but they need a c+ in the class to have it transfer.
Of course, some of the classes they took probably don't transfer no matter the grade.
December 16th, 2017 at 6:28 PM ^
The last sentence is my 2 cents.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:10 PM ^
I think it has more to do with them passing but taking Beginners Bowling and Coaching and Officiating Football instead of College Algebra and Chemistry in their first two years.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^
maybe they can ref our game next year against OSU?
Rule 1: Don't take Delaney bribes or threats to tilt the game in OSU's favor.
Rule 2: Urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh are treated the same...When one jumps up and down on the sideline (Harbaugh) it should not be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, if you are giving Meyer a "sideline warning" for the same infraction.
Rule 3: You are allowed to call offensive holding and defensive PI against the team in scarlett and grey.
December 16th, 2017 at 6:45 PM ^
Golf, Aids Awareness and Bowling
#Katzenmoyer
December 16th, 2017 at 8:40 PM ^
I don't know why he got such grief for it, but given that it was 20 years ago, I would say that it was pretty progressive and enlightening, and dare if I say ahead of the times, for him to be taking a college class on golf!
December 16th, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^
Apologies for the lack of link, but in an earlier thread another poster provided an in-depth look into class credit transferability for Ole Miss's school of Health, Exercise Science & Recreation Management to Michigan's School of Kinesiology, and the short version is that pretty much nothing transfers.
Much like Andy Katzenmoyer's Golf classes at OSU, Ole Miss's phys ed classes don't transfer out as credit, so even if Jefferson and Anderson had 4.0 GPAs, they'd have issues getting into UM because they'd be too far behind under the Academic Progress Report rules.
One more way that Ole MIss and Colonel Reb are keeping their athletes on the plantation.
December 17th, 2017 at 5:14 AM ^
If that's true, it is a little weird that they nonetheless came for campus visits. I don't really know how this is done for transfers, but if I were coaches I'd want to have at least an initial conversation or email back and forth with the kids to determine if their coursework was likely acceptable for transfer credit.
It makes M look less good if these kids do such a high profile visit and end up not coming. Plus it can create a perception that the kids as not super smart/hardworking/etc. even if that's not really true.
December 17th, 2017 at 5:25 PM ^
Given how rapidly things were happening, I suspect that they met with admissions or academic counselors to see what could be done with the transcripts.
I disagree that a high profile visit is bad optics if it does not pan out. If the school and the kids meet, get along, but things don't work out and everybody speaks well of one another . . . .I think that shows some professionalism. It has seemed to me that although everything was done quickly, it was also done with a clear eye on compliance. If the University needed to bend too far to shoe horn them in academically, that might have put the kids in a bad spot academically. That may justify a face to face conversation.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^
Hard to blame them. I didn't have a clue what I wanted to do with my life beyond playing college baseball when I was 17 and I played at a small school.
December 16th, 2017 at 7:24 PM ^
Some of us had a lot more drive than that. I wanted to get drunk, get laid and fish.
December 16th, 2017 at 7:32 PM ^
dont play school!
December 16th, 2017 at 8:11 PM ^
Need service providers for each segment of the education market
December 16th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^
Jefferson's not coming. I think Sam said it earlier in the week.
December 16th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^
He gone from what I heard. I'm still disappointed about Anderson. I thought he would have been a game changer for us.
December 16th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^
Getting Shea is the most important because of the question marks we still have at the qb position. I feel like the wide receiver position will still be pretty good next year.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:23 PM ^
I want to believe in our WRs, but I've come to accept that until I see it, I will hold off judgement and assume it will be only what it has been so far.
December 16th, 2017 at 9:09 PM ^
C'mon man, they are going to be super good.
And now we have qb's that notice them when they are open, and, more importantly, can get them the ball.
December 16th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^
Not coming.
December 16th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
Not a level playing field. A student athletes grades can be good enought at such institutions such as Ole Miss. or Alabama, but not UM, Wisconsin, or Northwestern.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^
It's been the case since at least the mid-1970s that transferring into undergraduate programs at U-M is extremely hard because Michigan has very restrictive standards for which credits it will accept for transfer. It doesn't matter if a kid has a 4.0 at Ole Miss if the classes he's taking won't be accepted for credit at U-M.
This a huge reason why there have been so few transfers to play for Michigan over the last several decades.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^
Well that would make a ton of sense with Jefferson at first glance since he majors in journalism. Patterson and Anderson are both LS&A at Ole Miss, so that doesn't really illuminate anything. This is probably the winner.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^
Yet my point holds true with many transfers and most notably, HS graduates.
December 16th, 2017 at 7:04 PM ^
Same with Northwestern Michigan College in Travese City. All transfer without a hiccup.
December 17th, 2017 at 9:23 AM ^
U-M has agreements with CCs in the state:
"Note for transfers from Michigan community colleges: As part of the Michigan Transfer Agreement, many courses from Michigan community colleges have been pre-approved for transfer and distribution credit. You can check the Michigan Transfer Agreement page at the Undergraduate Admissions website to see if your courses have been pre-approved."
Of course this doesn't automatically apply to CCs in other states.
I had a good friend a bunch of years ago who got into U-M's program in computer science after transferring from the University of Toledo, but even back then he was royally pissed because U-M refused a slew of his credit hours at UT, and so he was forced to take classes in subject areas he'd already studied. Of course that means more tuition $$ for U-M, too.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^
Classes transfer to Michigan Ann Arbor. I went to Washtenaw for two years and transferred to Michigan with no problems. Now U of M flint wouldn’t take many of my class but AA did.
December 16th, 2017 at 7:53 PM ^
U of M took more of my credits than EMU did as actual comparable credits. EMU accepted a lot of mine as progress towards a degree, but not as equivalent course credits.
December 16th, 2017 at 7:56 PM ^
a bunch of times. #credits
December 16th, 2017 at 8:10 PM ^
You sure did, I’ll give you credit for that.
December 16th, 2017 at 8:31 PM ^
where credit is due!
December 16th, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^
I transferred from a CC in NY and all my relevant credits transferred.
December 16th, 2017 at 9:21 PM ^
and it's fully transparent. It's not a Michigan thing unless not glossing over meaningless classes and poor grades is the standard.
Michigan publishes it's articulation with most every other school in the nation and has comparable transfer policies.
https://www.ugadmiss.umich.edu/TCE/Public/CT_TCESearch.aspx
https://lsa.umich.edu/lsa/prospective-students/transfer/transfer-credit…
December 16th, 2017 at 9:32 PM ^
Yeah I transferred from Owens CC in Perrysburg with zero problems.
December 17th, 2017 at 2:56 PM ^
That's cause ur not a dumbass
December 16th, 2017 at 9:06 PM ^
I believe Randy Moss would have gotten in if he had transferred from Marshall.
You are correct in your post I believe, but let's face it, talent can open transfer hurdles.
December 17th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
I knew people who transferred from Community college directly into engineering and B School. They did fine.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:18 PM ^
wants him to work at his dry cleaning business.
December 16th, 2017 at 5:23 PM ^
I think he has a better shot in the music industry.
December 16th, 2017 at 6:07 PM ^
observant, huh
December 16th, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^
He gone.
Saw a blurb somewhere that Ohio may be kicking the tires on him. There would be no academic hurdles to clear there. Probably would catch a TD against us.
December 16th, 2017 at 6:28 PM ^
I always felt like bringing in those two guys was a little strange. We have decent depth at safety if Woods is really as good as he looked this year, and we are stacked at wide receiver. Given what we went through this season, I think the scholarships would be better used to fill up the 2018 recruiting class than anything else.
December 16th, 2017 at 6:32 PM ^
No transfers for this highly esteemed academic institution
Go Blue in the classroom!!!!!