January 10th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
Gee, thanks for the great news!
January 10th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^
if OSU is involved with the recruit, pack it up and head home. That way there is nothing to be lost or be negative about. Same rule applies if Alabama is involved.
/S (don't think I need it, but some of you are bad at jokes)
January 10th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
You are joking but I think that's how Beilein has improved his recruiting. He isn't trying to compete with Duke and Kentucky anymore like he did right after the final 4 appearance
January 10th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^
Luke Kennard and Devin Booker most heavily, because he was in on both long before they blew up into Duke/Kentucky recruits. Mitch McGary came before the final four, obviously. Jaylen Brown and Mo Bamba more recently, because they initiated contact late in the process. Also they were the types not to be locks for Duke or Kentucky.
I don't really see him doing anything differently, except being willing to overrecruit by one to allow for attrition.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:38 PM ^
Shoot the messenger!
January 10th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
Can’t wait for the Sam Webb spin zone on this if Friday does end up at OSU.
Couldn't blame him. I wouldn't want to play for a mid tier BIG team either if I had offers from every school.
Otis Reese and J. Patterson will soon choose other schools as well. But hey, we will get our 7th 3* CB! He's 6'2!
January 10th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
Sometimes my "inner Maizen" needs to be unleashed, bro.
January 10th, 2018 at 12:52 PM ^
Thats very true, we all have inner Maizen. I unleash mine alone in a cold dark room
January 10th, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^
Dude, no one cares about how you jerk off.
January 10th, 2018 at 1:01 PM ^
Double post.
January 10th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^
We can't always post how happy we are. We are human. Our structure has it that emotions are like the wild ride of a roller coaster.
January 10th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^
with the two replies above yours.
January 10th, 2018 at 2:49 PM ^
Let it out. I warned people about this class for months.
January 10th, 2018 at 4:27 PM ^
Moses, aren't you?
January 10th, 2018 at 6:51 PM ^
welcome back. stick around awhile.
January 11th, 2018 at 12:06 AM ^
No. Don't.
January 10th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
Albeit not eloquent, I think he's summarizing and expressing the frustrations many on this board have about this year's recruitment.
I hope that whoever is hired for the new coaching positions, they bring a solid recruiting network with them.
January 10th, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
We used the bad 2018 recruiting coaches. Not sure where we found the good 2016-2017 and 2019 recruiting coaches, but hopefully they stick around.
Hopefully your Eyore oulook will get to Rumler and Hinton and they leave to so you can be right.
January 10th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^
Cool. So 4% of the players in our '18 and '19 classes are considered elite. That should cut it.
January 10th, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^
telling the truth unfortunately
January 10th, 2018 at 4:27 PM ^
I always do.
January 10th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
Khaleke Hudson
Josh Metellus
Sean McKeon
Karan Higdon
Khalid Hill
Grant Perry
January 10th, 2018 at 12:45 PM ^
what is the record of those 3 star recruits against our rivals?
January 10th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^
Meh.
There will always be 3 stars who become first round picks and 5 stars who become busts and end their careers at Central Michigan.
But recruiting does matter. The best coaching isn't going to solve every physical shortcoming. You can't give Michelangelo a truck full of horse manure and expect the David.
January 10th, 2018 at 2:11 PM ^
So far under Harbaugh the hit rate on 3 stars has been very high. Is it variance and the staff will regress to the mean or is something more sustainable is unclear. Possibly because up until this year (I don’t count the crossover class) they were able to be very choosy with the 3 stars this year will be a test with it being so many. I think the hope is that Harbaugh has really emphasized scouting and has spent a lot of resources putting a large staff in place. Of course on aggregate stars matter but I am pretty sure Matt Dudek is a better scout than Allen Trieu.
January 10th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^
Just because someone is starting doesn't mean they are good. it just means they are the best option we have. while I tend to not be strictly a stargazer, fact is they are not getting it done on the field.
January 10th, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^
They haven’t gotten it done and hitting on some 5 stars would probably have changed that (like say Isaiah Wilson, Josh Rosen and Minkah Fitzpatrick), and losing out on Aubrey Solomon would have hurt the outlook for next year. I just wouldn’t feel better about random 4 star guy over over the guys they have scouted very well and will fit with their system. They need those elite top 50 types to compete with the big boys. They got them the first two years. Hopefully this year is an outlier.
January 10th, 2018 at 2:16 PM ^
Coaches should be developing players. It’s OK if we aren’t consistently bringing in a top-10 class. The players we are bringing in right now are good. Wisconsin, MSU, Oklahoma State, and Northwestern are doing pretty damn well and they don’t even bring in top 25 classes each year.
January 10th, 2018 at 4:27 PM ^
Because you named a couple outliers. Outliers prove the rule. To be an elite team year in and year out you must recruit at a high level. PERIOD. There is no legitimate debate on that, especially if you read the many studies on this issue.
January 10th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
Michelangelo used a piece that had been rejected by many other artists because it was thought to be too narrow. One of the things that makes the David so impressive was carrying such strength in such a narrow piece. So TLDR Dantonio is the true Michelangelo. This clas will be solid depth sandwiched between elite ones
January 10th, 2018 at 7:30 PM ^
Is no Michelangelo.....
January 10th, 2018 at 1:03 PM ^
Same as the 4 & 5 star recruits from the same classes?
January 10th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
Yes, which is not good enough. it's not just recruiting I'm frustrated with, on the field play has been a huge disappointment
January 10th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
This will not clam the 3* haters.
Hudson and Higdon are studs.
Perry, Metellus, McKeon are almost begging for someone to replace them.
January 10th, 2018 at 1:08 PM ^
McKeon is good at catching and blocking, and was the leading receiver (low bar, yes). He's not Tyler Eifert, but I look forward to his play next year. I think Metallus will have a battle on his hands, but as a junior probably has a good shot at being better than his mostly okay play this year.
Replacing these guys with 5* wouldn't change this year into a championship year anyway. This year was about OL and QB and QB and QB.
EDIT: Losing Friday would feel like shit. Losing him to OH would feel like eating shit (one imagines).
January 10th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
weren't JBB and Ulizio and Runyan 3 stars as well?
January 10th, 2018 at 5:44 PM ^
was a 2*
January 10th, 2018 at 5:47 PM ^
lead the team in targets by a lot I believe. His hands are fine. I would like to see Banks play more than him.
January 10th, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^
The non-studs listed did not show star potential. Just because you played doesn’t mean you are good when compared to true stars on opposing teams.
January 10th, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^
Is Hudson as good as Peppers?? No... So even if they produce stars at the end matter
Is it a tell all?? Of course not, buts it's a huge start
January 10th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
What about Najee?
January 10th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
Some 3* recruits...
Keith Washington
Jared Wangler
Maurice Ways
Reon Dawson
Dan Samuelson
Csont'e York
Jaron Dukes
Allen Gant
Kaleb Ringer
January 10th, 2018 at 2:33 PM ^
Only one of those gentlemen are a Harbaugh recruit, and he was a transition class recruit.
January 10th, 2018 at 3:10 PM ^
Elysee Mbem-Bosse
Kingston Davis
Dytarious Johnson
January 10th, 2018 at 4:21 PM ^
One of those guys never made it to campus so he didn't effect scholarships... And he is hitting those 3 stars at a better rate than Hoke hit 5 stars. You need three stars to fill in a class, this class has more 3 stars than I would like, but at the rate Harbaugh picks good ones, the amount of talent in this class will be better than any non-Harbaugh class since, 2002?
January 10th, 2018 at 7:59 PM ^
Didn't we pass on Ethan Pocic (2nd round NFL draft pick) to keep Samuelson? That one hurts.
January 10th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^
Sam Webb to blame?
January 10th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^
Obviously it would be silly to blame Sam, but isn't Friday the guy that he was doing a multi part series of interviews on? Including with members of his family? That's usually an indication that the recruitment is already over. That adds salt to the wound obviously.