UM Indy

April 14th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^

Anyone notice that Star Wars was in red letters at the end? Really stood out to me because it's always in yellow. More foreboding/menacing color? Or I could be reading too much into it.

stephenrjking

April 14th, 2017 at 12:49 PM ^

I admit it's been a long time since I've watched Eps 2 & 3, but I recall 3 being barely tolerable and 2 being a smoking crater of awful. But, uh, to each their own.

Hold me TomVH, like you did by the lake on Naboo.

 

SHub'68

April 14th, 2017 at 9:03 PM ^

yup.  The "anti-cheese" edits actually made them tolerable.  Mostly by removing some of the horrible dialogue, the most cringe-worthy scenes and, best of all, by replacing the racist accent of the Jar-Jar Binks character.  After watching them I wondered if there might be enough salvageable material for someone truly gifted in Hollywood to take the 3 movies and turn them into one or two that is/are decent.

stephenrjking

April 14th, 2017 at 9:12 PM ^

Full reboot of the first three. New scripts, new creators. Can keep most of the characters (except Jar-Jar) and plot points or throw them out, whatever. But a reboot done well would be enormously well-received.

You know it's going to happen. Too much money available not to. They'll just need to make firm statements that the original trilogy will not be touched.

Perkis-Size Me

April 14th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^

Ep III was alright, but I'd be okay with never watching Ep II again. Honestly the writing in all of the prequel movies were bad. Like, hilariously bad. I re-watched Ep II in the last year or so, and couldn't get over the fact of how much Anakin sounded like a perverted creep. 

I'd put the Force Awakens squarely in fourth place right now. Better than all of the prequels, but not as good as the originals. Then again, nothing will ever be as good as Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi. 

Champeen

April 14th, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^

I have same order, but Force Awaken over Rogue One

1. Empire

2. New Hope

3. Force Awaken

4. Rogue One

5. Sith

6. Clone

7. Phantom

8. Jedi (this was just a silly fricken film - give me jar jar anyday ahead of ewoks throwing stone at elite stormtroopers and killing them!)

 

also, not sure why Force Awaken gets a bad rep.  What they did with Rey vs. Kylo is pretty damn good.  Love the curiosity with Snoke. 

slimj091

April 14th, 2017 at 4:45 PM ^

While I too have deeply questioned the viability of destroying an armored AT-ST with a couple of logs tied to a vine. The Empire, and it's military at the time of Return was at the hight of it's arrogance. They thought that no force was a match for them much the same way the Jedi thought just before the purge.



And what has history taught us of a military force that believes itself so superior to it's adverseray that they don't feel that they have to try that hard to win? They lose, usually in an embarrasingly brutal way.

Bodogblog

April 14th, 2017 at 8:37 PM ^

You curse ROTJ for the ewoks but have no issue putting Awaken third, after a young girl with zero combat experience of any type is able, with zero training of any kind, to defeat a jedi-turned-darkside whatever who trained at the feet of Luke mother blanking Skywalker? 

As silly as the ewoks storyline is, it's a distant secondary plot vs what's happening on the Death Star.  The jokes and light heartedness on Endor drive home that point.  This vs. Rey and Kylo, which is the primary plotline in Awaken.  And the ewoks are at least warriors - they travel with spears and they're all armed.  Fighting in their own natural element (the whole natural world triumph over artificial, which is really the point of that battle).  It's infinitely more likely that their entire population could mount a defense against what seemed like a dozen armored walkers or so and a hundred stormtroopers, than it is that Rey could have beaten Kylo Ren. 

mgohypocritical 

LSAClassOf2000

April 14th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^

I have the same thought about "The Force Awakens" (which, incidentally, is the film I saw two days before my wife forced me to face my virus in an ER) - I would also put it above I, II, and III but below the originals, which I guess makes it an "average" film in my ranking of Star Wars films. I am very interested in seeing The Last Jedi though. 

BlueWolverine02

April 14th, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^

force awakens was probably the 3rd best star wars movie. Don't know if that makes it great, as only ESB and ANH truly lived up to expectations. ROTJ turned Vader into a giant pussy, plus ewoks. TPM was a steaming pile of unnecessary crap. I have yet to watch episode 2, have zero interest. episode 3 could have been decent if it wasn't so rushed and the script writers put any thought at all into it. Rogue One was pretty good but very disjointed. probably in part due to all the rewrites and reshoots.

rainingmaize

April 14th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^

RotJ was still a great movie, like at least 8/10 good. But it isn't in the same hemisphere as ANH or ESB. Star Wars thrives when it has a menacing villian, and Vader was in his prime in the first two movies. In the RotJ, he was made out to be a wimp and a pawn from the onset. The best moments in TFA was when Kylo Ren had his mask on. But the second he took it off he became a winy little bitch. Hopefully they fix that in this new movie. 



Also the ewoks and how they can kill elite stormtroopers with sticks and rocks was really bad. 

Bodogblog

April 14th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^

The entire point of the films is the redemption of Anakin Skywalker, or at least a big part of it.  Calling a Vader a pawn misses the whole point.   And I disagree with this in any sense.  He almost sacrificed his son's life to the Emperor, only Luke's death cries and pleading were able to overcome his dark side and fear of the Emperor. 

And Anakin was once one of the greatest Jedi (as hard as it is to believe, given his terrible portrayal in the prequels).  So it's not a flip from evil to good, but a Return to his essential nature.  It is Anakin that is the Jedi who returns.  That's the movie.