Shea Patterson on walterfootball.com

Submitted by trock444 on

The walterfootball.com 2019 mock draft came out.  The top pick is Shea Patterson.  The #8 pick is Rashan Gary.  Do they know something that we don't about Shea's eligibility???

UMVAFAN

January 10th, 2018 at 9:32 AM ^

I don't have any insider knowledge, but when the Vegas books have Michigan with the fifth best odds of winning the national champtionship next year at 9 to 1, I'm thinking someone has an inside track on what's going to happen. Everyone knows the defense will be great, but the offense is still a big question mark. If Shea won't be eligible, I don't think Vegas is going to put Michigan in their top 5 or top 10 with Peters or McCaffery at the helm -- especially given our schedule. The odds are mostly about a projection of performance with betting behavior around certain teams and fan bases shifting things a bit.

FatGuyTouchdown

January 10th, 2018 at 9:45 AM ^

the business of making pure predictions. Vegas would put Michigan with those odds if it helped them make money and avoid losing money, the odds are almost entirely based on how they think the money will come in. Michigan having the 5th best odds doesn't mean Vegas thinks they have a top 5 chance of winning it, but rather that they feel it would avoid a massive money pitfall if Michigan did win due to the large Michigan fan base putting money on Michigan. If you're an NFL fan, you'll notice that along with all the favorites, the Chicago Bears almost always have some of the best odds to win the Super Bowl despite not being very good the last 10 years. It's because they have a large fan base and always see a good amount of betting.

bamf16

January 10th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^

How the position groups work together is so much more important than the relative strength of them individually. A great running back can make a porous OL look good and a QB with a quick release or the ability to scramble can make receivers and tackles look good too.

 

For all the crap UM's offensive line took from fans, how many times did we see further reviews of plays showing open receivers that QBs missed? For all the talk about WRs not getting open, we saw later that 3rd down at PSU gave JOK 2 open receivers and he took a sack. Or against OSU JOK's pick came when 3 different receivers ran the right routes and were open. 

 

Michigan's should be feature back going into next season averaged 6.1 yards per carry last year. Wisconsin is what many of us consider to be the gold standard in the B1G. Taylor averaged 6.6. A QB who knows what the hell he's doing can open a lot of doors to offensive play calling that can mitigate some of the offensive weaknesses. Last year we saw a backup QB from the AAC with accuracy and indecision issues and a redshirt freshman on whose optimism we may have jumped far too quickly.

 

A competent QB can mitigate many of the issues we saw last season and I still don't think the OL was as bad as many try to argue.

 

Just my $.02 worth.

chrisu

January 10th, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^

Think about that for a minute. Vegas is simply playing the odds in their favor. If they assumed Patterson was not going to be available, Michigan would be more like a 25-1, 30-1 or worse. People would hedge this bet with the thought that if Patterson won his eligibility, the odds would drop. Vegas would then be on the hook for a bunch of bets at odds against their favor. The way they are starting out is safe for their books

Mr Miggle

January 10th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^

that much of a long shot without Patterson. We're fans overreacting after a bad loss. Non-Michigan fans would jump all over that bet with our defense.

If Vegas were to offer odds on Patterson being eligible, they would probably be about 25-1 in favor of it. Nobody has inside information, but I've yet to see any knowledgable writer predict the Ole Miss transfers won't get a waiver. It should be a no-brainer, even for the NCAA.

 

Supa Hot Fire

January 10th, 2018 at 8:21 AM ^

What is with people projecting Michigan defensive lineman lower than they should be? I thought Taco Charlton should've been drafted higher and so should Hurst, but everything has him at 20th or later. It's puzzling. Gary for sure should be a top 5 pick if he keeps this up. Having a 1st overall pick at qb would certainly be a major upgrade from this year

Space Coyote

January 10th, 2018 at 2:13 PM ^

And got drafted at the high end of his projection. And was also in a weaker DT class. 2014's  next DT taken was Dominique Easley with pick 29, then Hageman at 37, Jernigan at 48, Ferguson at 51; that's it in the first two rounds. In contrast, Hurst is up against Vae, Wilkins, Payne, and Bryan, all almost certainly to also go in the first two rounds, along with potentially Dre'Mont Jones, Trenton Thompson, Derrick Nnadi, Rasheem Green, Andrew Brown, Harrison Phillips, and D. Russell, all potentially 2-3 round picks, so stiffer competition at the top of the draft.

That said, Donald's senior year: 59 tackles, 28.5 TFL, 11 Sacks, 4 FF (Career: 181, 66, 29.5, 6)

Hurst: 60 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 5 sacks, 1 FF (137, 32.5, 12.5, 2)

Donald's production was absurd.

It's not a bad comparison, similar size and playing style, but it isn't identical. That Hurst is still projected to go as high as he is despite his size is extremely impressive and speaks to his talent. Donald is the exception, not the rule.

goblue12

January 10th, 2018 at 8:37 AM ^

I remember seeing his 2018 mock draft and he had Tyrone Wheatley Jr. as a first round pick coming out this year. No disrespect to WheatleyJr., hes a good TE and I believe he has not reached his cieling but yeah... this Walter dude is not the best at mock drafts. 

trock444

January 10th, 2018 at 9:20 AM ^

Who took a whizz in everyones coffee this morning.  Thought this was a positive, happy, put a little skip in your step kind of a post...maybe, just maybe, we could have a good year next year.  Our system is based on the QB.  If we have no QB we suck.  Someone (who makes a living on this crap, by the way) thinks we have a good f'ing QB.  THIS MAKES ME HAPPY.  NOW SHUT THE F UP AND BE HAPPY DAMN IT!!!!!

M and M Boys

January 10th, 2018 at 10:28 AM ^

when you previously received hundreds of downvotes last April when you posted that Dominos Pizza was going to be the new title sponsor of The Big House?
April fool joke casualties aside...this latest post is more of a factual hop and a jump over real talent ratings used by the NFL to evaluate draft candidates.
We all hope Shea is Sunshine Superman but I will personally wait until he shows he is the top NFL QB college prospect in a Michigan uniform before I skip along and sing show tunes.
Real M fans are obviously tired of the nearly instant adulation and flash mob support of the last six M congo line of QBs when they were annointed— but did not, in fact—win M’s coveted rival or bowl games.
We hope the poll and you turn out to be genius twins but we have historically and collectively earned the exhausting right to wait and see proof and results this time around...
And, QUIT YELLING at everyone...
Have a Kahlua and Tomato Juice (shaken, not stirred)—XtraMelanin talks about them calmly in his posts frequently....
MGOBLOG has 10,000 candidates that may replace Nostradamos some day...
But, we need a winning QB now.

MichiganMan_24_

January 10th, 2018 at 9:09 AM ^

I have followed Walter for a long time..No he doesnt know anything more about Sheas eligibility but he does alot of scouting and breakdown so he is a solid judge of talent.

Space Coyote

January 10th, 2018 at 9:39 AM ^

But looking beyond that is a pointless endevour. They don't really know about future draft picks, scouts aren't talking much about them (or spending much time on them) because they have to focus on the upcoming draft. So it basically is a list of "hyped players". Shea was a 5 star who played a lot at the QB position. Therefore, Shea = high draft pick.

Neversatisfied

January 10th, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^

Seems like a comparable skill set, and a better attitude.  Improvising, throwing on the run, and pretty solid arm stregnth.  Shea is the type of player that helps a team put points on the board in this college football landscape.  We have a lot to be optimistic about.  Whether he is the #1 pick in the NFL draft means nothing to me other than the recruiting ramifications it would give us for having the #1 pick in the draft.  

Oklahoma with Mayfield shredded that George D that Bama had a real problem moving the ball on, and Shea compares pretty well with Mayfield.  

Fezzik

January 10th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^

Clayton Thorson going 4 is the real head scratcher. Reminds me when people were giving Mitch Leidner a first or second round grade.

Overall I have always enjoyed this website for mock drafts. Mock drafts are all crap shoots anyways.