Shea Patterson, Others Outline Their Argument to NCAA to Get Immediately Eligibility

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Finally, the details on how Shea's working to become our quarterback this fall. The six transfers from Ole Miss have officially outlined their argument to the NCAA as to why they should be eligible NOW. From the story:

Six former Ole Miss football players who transferred to other schools after the Rebels were hit with additional NCAA penalties plan to build their appeals for immediately eligibility around text messages they say were sent to recruits to downplay the severity of the NCAA investigation into the program.

According to screenshots of text messages exchanged by recruits who signed with the Rebels in 2016, the players were allegedly told that the NCAA violations involving the Ole Miss football program occurred before Hugh Freeze was hired as head coach in 2012.

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jblaze

February 1st, 2018 at 11:31 PM ^

It's late and I may be too sleepy, but this quote from the ESPN article makes it sound like Shea was misleading other recruits. I guess the point is that he was lied to and then spread the lie? BTW, Nixon in the quote below is Tre, one of the other kids appealing.

 

"In a text message exchange between Patterson and Nixon on Jan. 29, 2016, which was shared with ESPN, Patterson told Nixon: "don't listen to any of that crap. It happened before [Freeze] was even there. The worst thing that can happen will be lose one or two scholarships for next year. Nothing serious. It's all good over here homie."

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CarrIsMyHomeboy

February 2nd, 2018 at 12:00 AM ^

Yeah, I see that as *the* critical fulcrum, too. It's most logical to read Patterson's quote as equivalent to "See guys (NCAA), Hugh and Co. *must* have been telling us this lie because why else would I be documented as spreading that lie, as if it were true, to recruits?" But he must still be prepared for the NCAA to rhetorically ask whether Hugh said no such thing and, instead, the text is a window into Shea deliberately being a dick in general. Far-fetched, sure, but there's no way the NCAA doesn't construct that easy, if improbable, counter-narrative and then ask to check that box just in case.

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mgob-rad

February 2nd, 2018 at 8:36 AM ^

This is true, but the reasoning for Shea texting that to Nixon is shown later in the article - Shea messaged Freeze asking for clarification on the allegations against Ole Miss, and Freeze sent him an article laying out that the allegations were for other sports, and not football. That is the definition of misleading someone.

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EGD

February 2nd, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^

Seems to me that proving Freeze and the Ole Miss staff lied to recruits is the easy part.  The more difficult question IMO is whether the recruits genuinely believed what the Ole Miss people were telling them.  The text message seems pretty compelling on that score.

 

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SpilledMilk

February 2nd, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^

As to why so many highly rated recruits wanted to go to ole Miss in the first place. Freeze could have lied his ass off but that still doesn't explain why Ole Miss was landing so many top recruits

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Blue_In_Texas

February 2nd, 2018 at 12:20 AM ^

I don't mean to be a downer, but the longer this goes on, the less likely I think they get waivers. I mean, when is the last time the NCAA was reasonable about something? 

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Yo_Blue

February 2nd, 2018 at 9:44 AM ^

They are building the case for all the Ole Miss players and not handling it on a case by case basis.  Kind of like a class action suit.  With all the talk about altering the transfer rules, this flagerant lying by the Ole Miss staff sounds like the NCAA will have a no-brainer issue.  This is perfect because there aren't a whole lot of brains in that group anyway.

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Arb lover

February 2nd, 2018 at 8:05 AM ^

I think Espn was only given stuff that did nothing to implicate coaches... for other reasons, i.e. the only text supplied was between two players. The document submission very likely provides a pretty clear narrative of events showing that freeze mislead these recruits. If you pull from this narrative from the document and assume they have the exhibits to back it up, I think they are probably there:

"Coach Freeze delivered the misleading 'false narrative' to [the journalist], waited until [his] story went online, and then drafted a DM [direct message] to one of his assistants (commenting 'Good PR response' on the false information that he himself had given to the [journalist]), and directed the assistant to send the link to [his] story to all the recruits," the document says.

Showing that the information sent in the article was a false narrative is probably fairly easy to do in hind sight. Since they are alleging that he accidentally sent this direct message to a recruit, there isn't any speculation needed. 

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1VaBlue1

February 2nd, 2018 at 6:50 AM ^

He should come as a package deal with an NCAA investigator that is given access to the entire AD at whatever school hires him.  I mean, its been proven that he ran a pay for play scheme.  If you can't keep him from coaching, put a monitor on him wherever he goes.  Bama would not have even looked at him if that were the case...

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EGD

February 2nd, 2018 at 9:35 AM ^

Man, Natty Light was usually a luxury purchase for me.  Usually I would just buy whatever shit beer Premo had marked down at the Blue Front.  Some of the worst beers ever: Schlitz Ice, Huber Bock, Genessee Cream Ale, Coors Artic Ice.  There was one day he sold me twelve 22 oz. bottles of skunked Algonquin Lager for like $1 each, and I felt like I'd won the lottery.

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