OT - Houston decides on Lane Kiffin as next coach
BREAKING: Houston has decided on Lane Kiffin, president to OK the hire at a Thursday meeting, @USATODAY has learned https://t.co/DhTeueFIU5
— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) December 8, 2016
Will the H-Town takeover continue with Kiffin?
December 8th, 2016 at 8:19 AM ^
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to his wife
December 8th, 2016 at 8:37 AM ^
Didn't they get a divorce?
December 8th, 2016 at 8:47 AM ^
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December 8th, 2016 at 10:41 AM ^
Yeah.....................He banged my mother.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^
December 10th, 2016 at 6:07 PM ^
Oh, wide open.
December 8th, 2016 at 8:39 AM ^
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December 8th, 2016 at 9:07 AM ^
Because he's about to win what, his 3rd national championship?
He's been a clown at every stop pre-Alabama, but he's been awesome at Bama...some of the play calls he makes, finding matchups, and not being afraid to abandon the gameplan and take what the defense gives has been special. Especially with the lack of talent he's had at QB.
December 8th, 2016 at 9:19 AM ^
Sorry, I call BS. Give me a consistently solid QB, a Heisman-caliber RB each and every year, an NFL-quality offensive line, and some fantastic skill players, and I too could squeak wins out against overrated SEC teams. Nussmeier did it before him, and I'd bet a penny whoever comes next, you won't see a drop-off. I'll also bet he bombs at Houston, and gets run out of town before 2020...
December 8th, 2016 at 9:39 AM ^
FauxMo and completely agree. He really is a decent OC, but has shown to be incompetent as a head coach. That program will have a big drop off in a couple of years and he will be run out of town, probably with a scandel attached to his program.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
I'll never be able to get beyond Tosh's skit...
December 8th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
Nussmeiers teams put up worse results with inferior talent. Nussmeier had an NFL QB (and great OL, RB, WR). Kiffin had a converted WR, a FSU castaway, and now a true FR QB who can't throw the ball and is merely a pretty good runner.
EDIT: To clarify, I think that Kiffin is much better than Nussmeier (who I think it a pretty bad OC), not the Kiffin is a genuis offensive mind.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^
I took your defense of Kiffin to heart, because I don't want to be unfair to him, and went and looked at Alabama's margin-of-victory for the three years before Kiffin (BK) and the three years under Kiffin (UK). While this is incredibly crude, and doesn't take the talent into account, the relationship between offense and defense, the strength of schedule, etc., if Kiffin was a clear-cut plus over his predecessors, you'd assume that metric would be better UK than it was BK. Here are the MOV results year-by-year, including all games played (with 2016 obviously missing one, possibly two games, against the best competition they'll have played all year):
2011: 26.7
2012: 27.8
2013: 24.2
2014: 18.5
2015: 19.9
2016: 28.8
In summary, in his first two years Kiffin was substantially worse than his two predecessors. This year is his best, and he is actually beating his competitors. But when you consider they play one and maybe two more games against the #4 and maybe #3/#2 team, I'll bet that numbers drops down closer to his first two years.
My conclusion: Kiffin sucks and Houston is stupid.
December 8th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^
you know, actual offensive efficiency numbers? Margin of victory takes into account defense, doesn't take into account opponents, pace, etc. There are far better numbers for what you're trying to achieve! Bama's Offensive FEI numbers the last six years:
2016: 16th (Kiffin)
2015: 18th (Kiffin)
2014: 6th (Kiffin)
2013: 10th (Nuss)
2012: 4th (Nuss)
2011: 7th (McElwain)
Kiffin has had the least success here, but as others mentioned, he's probably not had quite the talent at QB as the other two. All evidence does point to the fact that it really doesn't matter who the O coordinator is for an offense that has insane NFL talent on the line and at RB (and to a lesser extent WR). When you're running top-rated backs behind the best O lines in football even Doug Nussmeier (who has gone on to be awful at his next two stops) can be successful. And Kiffin probably isn't any better than Nuss unless he can personally recruit the kind of talent that Saban does - doutful at Houston.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^
Yep. Spot on. He isn't special at all and has shown that when he didn't have every advantage or an NFL roster in college to utilize.
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December 8th, 2016 at 10:19 AM ^
As head coach?
December 8th, 2016 at 9:13 AM ^
I don't think Kiffin is all that bad intrinsically. I think the problem is that he was given high level HC positions too early with failure being a predictable result. I am also guessing that working under Nick Saban was perfect for him because Saban probably taught him humility. Kiffin has had too many sycophants around him. Saban is a lot of things, but definitely not a sycophant.
I think Kiffin is right where he belongs now: HC at a non-Power Five school that has a lot of resources but is still basically a stepping stone job. When he was elevated to HC for Oakland, he had no HC experience. Then he worked two high profile HC jobs but without ever having had the experience of building a college program.
Kiffin didn't have a resume that justified his hiring before. Now, his resume and experience level are perfect for the kind of job he should have taken before going to Oakland, Tennessee or USC. I think he will finally be successful as an HC now that he is ready.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
I think this is the right take. Dude's only 41, and there's not many good candidates right now. I think it's a reasonable risk to take. He was at Oakland and Tenessee for such short periods it's hard to glean much from those stops.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:10 AM ^
If you throw out his NFL experience, which I think you should since he was young and unprepared for a job that most coaches fail at, he's only had one failure. And that was at USC under harsh sanctions, and even there he had a 10-2 season.
I won't argue that he certainly has acted like an asshat, but if he's matured and figured out how to be a head coach under Saban, I think he's worth the risk. Especially for a program like Houston. Houston isn't a job that simply requires a steadying hand and you'll be successful. Houston needs to always take a chance on the next coach with high upside.
December 8th, 2016 at 12:15 PM ^
His Tennessee year was a success?
December 8th, 2016 at 3:29 PM ^
I said he hadn't failed anywhere else. I wouldn't count 7-6 the year after Tennessee went 5-7 as a failure. It wasn't a roaring success, but at worst, it's an incomplete.
December 8th, 2016 at 8:19 AM ^
Good luck with that.
December 8th, 2016 at 8:40 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 8:40 AM ^
while he's still there.
December 8th, 2016 at 12:39 PM ^
Jiffy Lube Bowl..
December 8th, 2016 at 9:07 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 9:34 AM ^
Tom Herman
December 8th, 2016 at 8:20 AM ^
Looking forward to the first episode of Kiffin's Kougar Korner
December 8th, 2016 at 8:22 AM ^
Their only hope was joining the Big 12. But Kiffin? why do that to yourself. Back to the irrelevancy from whence they came
December 8th, 2016 at 8:22 AM ^
Joey Freshwater is back in the saddle again!
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December 8th, 2016 at 8:28 AM ^
I wonder how it shakes out with Alabama and if he coaches in the CFP.
December 8th, 2016 at 8:30 AM ^
I guess the only question I would have then is how many years will it be before he is left on the tarmac at George Bush Intercontinental? I willl go out on a limb and guess that it is three seasons, and like his stint at USC, after a game where Houston plays as though it died recently.
December 8th, 2016 at 9:23 AM ^
No way he gets left on the tarmac at IAH.
Houston Hobby (HOU) is much closer to campus. :-)
December 8th, 2016 at 8:35 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 8:38 AM ^
His record as a head coach really isn't that bad, he's just a giant douche and people don't like giant douches.
December 8th, 2016 at 9:04 AM ^
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December 8th, 2016 at 1:43 PM ^
Checks out.
December 8th, 2016 at 8:33 AM ^
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December 8th, 2016 at 9:08 AM ^
to him or Steve Sarkisian
December 8th, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
I don't think he's ever been a coordinator before. I'd be a bit surprised if a defensive guy like Saban takes on a guy that has never coordinated before as his OC. Alabama can and should do better (unless he's seen as a guru behind the scenes, but I've never heard that before).