OT: Former Michigan QB commit Messiah DeWeaver transferring
Former Michigan QB commit Messiah DeWeaver is transferring out of Michigan State. With Brian Lewerke looking like a pretty good starter for 2018 and perhaps beyond, the writing seems to be on the wall.
In case you don't remember, DeWeaver (class of 2016) committed to Brady Hoke but when Jim Harbaugh was hired, the two parties seemed to come to a mutual understanding that Michigan might not be the best fit.
December 30th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^
He was probably passed by Rocky Lombardi.
December 30th, 2017 at 8:58 PM ^
Theo Day looks to be a solid red shirt guy
December 30th, 2017 at 9:04 PM ^
based on a high school commit.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:30 PM ^
My dad left because of a fetus.
December 31st, 2017 at 7:19 AM ^
Lombardi did pass DeWeaver, so if Messiah wants to start he had to transfer. QB talent isn't a problem in EL.
December 30th, 2017 at 8:57 PM ^
Borges was the worst qb evaluator ever. Didn't take Deshone Kizer, didn't take a qb in 2013, took Malzone. The only two qbs that were functional were Speight and Morris and neither were worldbeaters.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:03 PM ^
I wouldn't even call Morris functional. He was absolutely terrible at Michigan. He never ran or threw for a TD.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^
It's quite obvious Harbaugh is never going to make the mistake of skipping a year in QB recruiting like Hoke did. Never.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:24 PM ^
I will say that skipping a year between recruiting QBs never made sense to me, but then I don't do the job so I have been wondering what experience / inexperience leads to someone believing that this is a good thing to do. If I had to guess, I would lean on my opinion that Hoke's staff just did not have a good feel for QBs, but it seems like there is more to it. Still seems like a dumb thing to do, but I've always been curious to know what someone who deals with recruiting thinks about that.
December 30th, 2017 at 11:00 PM ^
Didn't do a good job of having anyone on the staff skilled at evaluating them. Didn't place nearly enough value on having sufficient depth at the position.
I don't think he looks at QBs as integral to how he thinks football is supposed to be played. They're more of a necessary evil.
December 31st, 2017 at 7:21 AM ^
that Morris neither passed nor threw for a TD in his Michigan career, why be so harsh as to use the term "absolutely terrible"?
He had one start vs. Minnesota and we all know what the end result was. But prior to his concussion in that game, Shane's lack of success vs Minnesota is much more on the shoulders of Hoke and Borges than on Shane. Hindsight is 20-20, but that offense and game plan were so very bad that even a seasoned QB would have struggled, let alone a rusty, inexperienced Morris in his first start since his junior year in high school.
December 31st, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
How would you phrase it if an opposing team's QB completed 51.1% of his passes for 0 touchdowns and 4 interceptions throughout his career?
Also, Morris started the BWW Bowl against Kansas State after Devin Gardner got hurt, and he played in 17 total games. It's not just the Minnesota game.
Morris's numbers are worse than literally every other QB to start a game since the mid-1990s, which is as far back as I went when looking at the subject.
So if you don't want to call that "absolutely terrible," then that's okay with me. But the numbers don't lie.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:08 PM ^
Yea Shane was downright pathetic for his entire career at Michigan..
He topped of his career by turning it over like 5 times in centrals bowl game
December 30th, 2017 at 9:13 PM ^
He can prepare for the draft.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:56 PM ^
in the 2nd round!
December 30th, 2017 at 9:16 PM ^
His Michigan career highlight was contributing to the firing of Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke. That's more than a lot of Michigan players have done for the program.
December 31st, 2017 at 3:47 AM ^
....wasn't that WD???
December 31st, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
it was a team effort
December 30th, 2017 at 9:17 PM ^
That a person could be so inept at the most important facet of their job for which they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
You're talking about Brian right?
December 30th, 2017 at 9:54 PM ^
Brian is a scholar and a gentleman. Borges on the other hand is bad at QB evaluations and talent identification, amongst other things.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:04 PM ^
Borges was a keen afficiando of the buffet line.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:30 PM ^
His wife is actually pretty decent.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:41 PM ^
Did he get her off the buffet?
December 31st, 2017 at 2:24 AM ^
If he did she would be ate...well
December 31st, 2017 at 3:49 AM ^
....was that from the cheesecake table???
/I will show myself out now
December 30th, 2017 at 9:38 PM ^
I remember the “golden hammer” post Brian put out after Morris committed. Crazy to think how we used to think he would be the one to carry the program. The Hoke years are when I my view on recruits changed and I learned to never get so caught up in the crazy expectations
December 31st, 2017 at 12:00 AM ^
Is an idiot and a horrible hire. Nuff said.
December 31st, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^
He was better than Nuss...just sayin
January 1st, 2018 at 8:08 AM ^
Look at the rest of the offensive coaches Hoke brought in. It was a very weak group.
Borges was in complete charge of designing that offense, making the play calls, everything except the stupid manball edict from Hoke. And he had to make it all work with only one decent position coach developing his players. Compare them to the collaborative group we have now.
I think Borges is probably a pretty good OC, given a normal amount of help. His weaknesses were as a recruiter and a QB coach.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:12 PM ^
So, needless to say, he wasn't the Messiah?
Thank you, thank you, I'll see myself out!
December 30th, 2017 at 9:29 PM ^
Only at deweaving. Word on the street is he spent all of his time taking apart baskets
December 31st, 2017 at 3:52 AM ^
....laugh all you want, but that is 12 credit hours at staee, and probably at ole miss also.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:31 PM ^
is a former Michigan commit. He is a current MSU player
December 30th, 2017 at 9:37 PM ^
Well, this thread went off the rails quickly.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:38 PM ^
Stupid post by me.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^
You didn't offend me. I just think it's funny how things spiral.
December 30th, 2017 at 9:59 PM ^
Is this funny to you?
December 31st, 2017 at 12:42 AM ^
Funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown?
December 30th, 2017 at 10:06 PM ^
Albeit a Messiah who chose us not.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:58 PM ^
I think you meant deweave
December 30th, 2017 at 11:39 PM ^
Intent to deweave can be a five yard penalty.
December 31st, 2017 at 6:52 AM ^
Yeah but it never gets called...well except that one time.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:18 PM ^
Honestly, this post should follow 99.9% of your posts on this board.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:22 PM ^
You really say nothing of any consequence. Alf would contribute more and he is a costume.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:30 PM ^
It’s sad that’s the best you can come up with. At least don’t just copy my post and then say a few kind words about Alf.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:43 PM ^
remotely cogent when it comes to Michigan football. It’s all hyper negative bullshit. You are a broken record.