GR III waived
can't want for 20 condescending posts of "should've stayed in school kid"
You being the first.
If my math is correct ( 4 - 2 = 2 ), there are two years that he didn't use.
If it were up to me, I'd welcome him back to the team.
He has no eligibility. He forfeited that when he went pro.
Grew a moustache and sold insurance? I'm pretty sure Beilien would offer a scholarship to Ben Throbinson.
Pretty sure that's somebody's porn pseudonym
- Glenn used up 2 yrs of eligibility (TRUE)
- Which means he didn't use 2 of the max 4 yrs of eligibility (TRUE)
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And if it were up to me (as D1 BB Dictator--
the NCAA has yet to grant me that power),
I'd put him back on the team (TRUE)
Not sure it would have made a difference, or if he'd be better off a year from now.
I agree. Talented player, but even at the college level he could be frustrating with his inconsistency and what seemed to be softness. His size and lack of a reliable shot is a tough combination. He was never going to be a good pro.
Done good leaving early.
Well this does show the downside of going too early doesn't it? 2nd round contracts aren't guaranteed and maybe he plays his way into the first round if he stays. That's the calculation a lot of these guys need to make.
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I feel like I remember that he got a guaranteed contract anyways.
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He signed a guaranteed contract. He still may not be paid anymore of it after being waived. I'm no expert on NBA contracts but here goes:
Contracts can be guaranteed for different things. Say GRIII's was guaranteed for 'injury' and he believed that 'lack-of-skill' wouldn't apply. He can still get cut and not get paid if they cut him for not being able to get on the court.
First-round pick contracts have guaranteed guarantees and...
... all seasons must be protected for lack of skill and injury/illness for at least 80% of the rookie scale amount.
So... IDK, but I'm guessing he's not getting much, if any, more of that contract. I hope it works out for him anyway.
That's possible. Good to know
Or you could argue he should have left even earlier when he was still all youth and potential and he was a projected lottery pick based on that.
Robinson passed on a four-year deal that included non-guaranteed years to take a one-year, $507,336 contract. He got $250,000 of the deal guaranteed. KJ McDaniels did a similar thing in Philly, though he was traded to Houston where he'll most likely cash in, but he has had a much bigger impact than Glen. If you truely believe in your abilitites(or are drafted by the 76ers) it might not be a bad way to go if you're a later draft pick. Best of luck to GR3, terrific dunker.
The Wolves have guaranteed $250K of Glenn Robinson III‘s minimum salary deal, Eric Pincus of Basketball Insiders reports (Twitter link).
http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2014/10/western-thunder-pelicans.html
The Wolves offered 40th overall pick Glenn Robinson III a four-year contract, but he turned it down for his partially guaranteed one-year pact, similar to the dynamic between No. 32 pick K.J. McDaniels and the Sixers, tweets Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.
Or he could have gotten hurt this year and never played basketball again. There are tradeoffs both ways
Career-ending injuries are very, very rare for college basketball players.
Than being a lottery NBA pick. And maybe even a 1st rounder.
too early, and here we sit--the internet cognoscenti--feeling sorry for him. Or worse, condescending. But let's say he were an architect, or like me an ecologist. I don't feel that I screwed up because I don't work at one of the 29 best universities; you don't look down on an architect because he doesn't work for Skidmore, Owens, etc. Guy can go live in Europe, ply his chosen trade, not worry too much about what we think. Hell, he can come back to school later and be an architect or an ecologist.
That's not a perfect analogy. There are a lot more than 30 universities for you to work at. You probably don't have to actually leave the country to get a job in your field.
"Guy can go live in Europe" - well, probably, but that's a gigantic lifestyle change and not for everyone. I'd guess the average basketball star would rather be in an American college than playing in Europe.
1) Second round contracts are negotiable. Some players get multiple guaranteed years at above the minimum salary for their years of experience, some get minimally guaranteed deals. Robinson signed a 1-year, guaranteed deal.
2) All NBA deals signed before January 9th that are for the entire season (i.e. Not a 10-day or training camp contract) become guaranteed on January 9th. (Deals signed after this are automatically guaranteed). So even if GR3 had not signed a guaranteed deal, it would have become one at this point.
3) I'd be very surprised if GR3 passed through waivers. I'd also be surprised if whichever team claims him from waivers didn't tender him the qualifying offer of $1.045 million next summer, which is about $100k less than the 30th overall pick from last year (Kyle Andersom) will be making. He'll be okay.
Actually he should have came out a year earlier wen he was a 1st round lock. He would have gotten a guaranteed contract.
is the right answer.
Good luck to the guy. He's too athletic not to catch on somewhere, even if not in the NBA then at a high level overseas. And at the very least he'll always have the highlights. To quote this fine blog:
How is stating a fact "condescending?" Unfotrunately, the current system doesn't allow for retrospect in real time.
Your opinion does not qualify as a fact.
Whoa. As a rookie I'm surprised they didn't try to season him in the D league or something. Ok then. I guess there's always the sixers.
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the rookie?
forced them to put him on the nba roster, they'd rather pay him and let him go then let him ride the bench.
He'll find a spot on a roster. Wish him the best.
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A roster in Europe perhaps.
That didn't take long.
Can we sign him for the rest of the season and BTT?
/s
Are there any rules anywhere against doing this? I would love to see him on the team for the big ten tournament.
He can't come back.
Upvoted myself for being the only one who likes my humor. The 2013 documentary had me in a nostalgic mood today.
Here's one of the tweets plus the reason...
Glenn Robinson III RT @ESPNSteinLine: Wolves are waiving Glenn Robinson Jr. to make roster room for Hamilton
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) March 5, 2015
but he was never a good shooter and had a poor handle. not a good combo for a small forward in the nba. damn, we coulda used him though this year.
He knocked down more than his share of jump shots from time to time (those quiet 18-20 point games of his)
I think he may have been better off coming back but he saw McGary getting injured so I won't fault him. Also, he already probably has a fortune from his dad so if he doesn't have a college degree it's not the end of the world when he's 40 and done playing basketball.
He just hasn't developed a skill to separate himself from other good athletes in the NBA and other leagues. He has to develop his jumper, or work on his handles so he can attack the basket. Right now he's just a great athlete who plays basketball. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of great athletes trying to get in the league ... and many are taller, faster, or are overall better athletes than him. He needs a defined skill, even if it's just being a lockdown defender. Being athletic is not enough at this level, unless you're 7' or something.
I think you nailed it. He never had anything at Michigan beyond being a freak athlete. And he's in a league full of reak athletes. If he can develop something else, he could do well in the NBA.
The time has probably passed for that. Yes, he's not even through the first NBA calendar year, but now he's on the outside looking in. Once you're out, its tough to get back in (see Darius Morris) and in a few months, there will be another batch of young athletic wing players ready to flood the league and take up developmental roster spots. He basically needs to work out and train like he's never trained before this offseaon, try and develop some sort of skill (defense would be a good one) and hope he can get an invite to a training camp and land on a roster. But that type of thing rarely happens. Usually, once you're out, you're out.
He wasn't a great defender, either. You're right on--he needs to fill a niche of some kind, and nothing he does fills such a niche.
And Minnesota is a team that is trying out the kids to see what they can do, too. I'm not optimistic about his NBA future. But in fairness, unless he really changed his game this year, if he had stayed he probably would've been undrafted.
His sophomore year, it became fairly apparent that, for all of his jumping ability and all-around skill, he was still pretty slow-footed (like his dad). His overall athleticism was always overrated because people weren't looking beyond the vertical.
There's probably still a window for him to spend a lot of time doing quickness drills and then look to get back into the league, but it won't be a big one.
His sophomore year, it became fairly apparent that, for all of his jumping ability and all-around skill, he was still pretty slow-footed (like his dad). His overall athleticism was always overrated because people weren't looking beyond the vertical.
There's probably still a window for him to spend a lot of time doing quickness drills and then look to get back into the league, but it won't be a big one.
Why do you think his draft stock would have improved? Simply getting better isn't enough - you need to outperform the expected improvement over one year. I see no evidence that would have happened, given his marginal improvement from freshman to sophomore. He really would have been best off leaving after 1 year.