Cold War

March 6th, 2015 at 5:55 AM ^

I agree. Talented player, but even at the college level he could be frustrating with his inconsistency and what seemed to be softness. His size and lack of a reliable shot is a tough combination. He was never going to be a good pro.

Blue Bunny Friday

March 5th, 2015 at 7:00 PM ^

He signed a guaranteed contract.  He still may not be paid anymore of it after being waived.  I'm no expert on NBA contracts but here goes:

Contracts can be guaranteed for different things.  Say GRIII's was guaranteed for 'injury' and he believed that 'lack-of-skill' wouldn't apply.  He can still get cut and not get paid if they cut him for not being able to get on the court. 

First-round pick contracts have guaranteed guarantees and...

 

... all seasons must be protected for lack of skill and injury/illness for at least 80% of the rookie scale amount.

So... IDK, but I'm guessing he's not getting much, if any, more of that contract.  I hope it works out for him anyway.

Ricky from Sunnyvale

March 5th, 2015 at 5:57 PM ^

Robinson passed on a four-year deal that included non-guaranteed years to take a one-year, $507,336 contract. He got $250,000 of the deal guaranteed. KJ McDaniels did a similar thing in Philly, though he was traded to Houston where he'll most likely cash in, but he has had a much bigger impact than Glen. If you truely believe in your abilitites(or are drafted by the 76ers) it might not be a bad way to go if you're a later draft pick. Best of luck to GR3, terrific dunker.

Lanknows

March 5th, 2015 at 5:56 PM ^

The Wolves have guaranteed $250K of Glenn Robinson III‘s minimum salary deal, Eric Pincus of Basketball Insiders reports (Twitter link).

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2014/10/western-thunder-pelicans.html

The Wolves offered 40th overall pick Glenn Robinson III a four-year contract, but he turned it down for his partially guaranteed one-year pact, similar to the dynamic between No. 32 pick K.J. McDaniels and the Sixers, tweets Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.

MGlobules

March 5th, 2015 at 7:21 PM ^

too early, and here we sit--the internet cognoscenti--feeling sorry for him. Or worse, condescending. But let's say he were an architect, or like me an ecologist. I don't feel that I screwed up because I don't work at one of the 29 best universities; you don't look down on an architect because he doesn't work for Skidmore, Owens, etc. Guy can go live in Europe, ply his chosen trade, not worry too much about what we think. Hell, he can come back to school later and be an architect or an ecologist.

snarling wolverine

March 6th, 2015 at 6:48 AM ^

That's not a perfect analogy.  There are a lot more than 30 universities for you to work at.  You probably don't have to actually leave the country to get a job in your field.  

"Guy can go live in Europe" - well, probably, but that's a gigantic lifestyle change and not for everyone.  I'd guess the average basketball star would rather be in an American college than playing in Europe.

 

 

 

bluesalt

March 6th, 2015 at 4:30 AM ^

1) Second round contracts are negotiable. Some players get multiple guaranteed years at above the minimum salary for their years of experience, some get minimally guaranteed deals. Robinson signed a 1-year, guaranteed deal.

2) All NBA deals signed before January 9th that are for the entire season (i.e. Not a 10-day or training camp contract) become guaranteed on January 9th. (Deals signed after this are automatically guaranteed). So even if GR3 had not signed a guaranteed deal, it would have become one at this point.

3) I'd be very surprised if GR3 passed through waivers. I'd also be surprised if whichever team claims him from waivers didn't tender him the qualifying offer of $1.045 million next summer, which is about $100k less than the 30th overall pick from last year (Kyle Andersom) will be making. He'll be okay.

umchicago

March 5th, 2015 at 5:25 PM ^

but he was never a good shooter and had a poor handle.  not a good combo for a small forward in the nba.  damn, we coulda used him though this year.

ThadMattasagoblin

March 5th, 2015 at 5:28 PM ^

I think he may have been better off coming back but he saw McGary getting injured so I won't fault him. Also, he already probably has a fortune from his dad so if he doesn't have a college degree it's not the end of the world when he's 40 and done playing basketball.

RobM_24

March 5th, 2015 at 5:30 PM ^

He just hasn't developed a skill to separate himself from other good athletes in the NBA and other leagues. He has to develop his jumper, or work on his handles so he can attack the basket. Right now he's just a great athlete who plays basketball. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of great athletes trying to get in the league ... and many are taller, faster, or are overall better athletes than him. He needs a defined skill, even if it's just being a lockdown defender. Being athletic is not enough at this level, unless you're 7' or something.

I Like Burgers

March 5th, 2015 at 9:03 PM ^

The time has probably passed for that.  Yes, he's not even through the first NBA calendar year, but now he's on the outside looking in.  Once you're out, its tough to get back in (see Darius Morris) and in a few months, there will be another batch of young athletic wing players ready to flood the league and take up developmental roster spots.  He basically needs to work out and train like he's never trained before this offseaon, try and develop some sort of skill (defense would be a good one) and hope he can get an invite to a training camp and land on a roster.  But that type of thing rarely happens.  Usually, once you're out, you're out.

stephenrjking

March 5th, 2015 at 6:43 PM ^

He wasn't a great defender, either. You're right on--he needs to fill a niche of some kind, and nothing he does fills such a niche.

And Minnesota is a team that is trying out the kids to see what they can do, too. I'm not optimistic about his NBA future. But in fairness, unless he really changed his game this year, if he had stayed he probably would've been undrafted.

Nitro

March 6th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^

His sophomore year, it became fairly apparent that, for all of his jumping ability and all-around skill, he was still pretty slow-footed (like his dad). His overall athleticism was always overrated because people weren't looking beyond the vertical.

There's probably still a window for him to spend a lot of time doing quickness drills and then look to get back into the league, but it won't be a big one.

Nitro

March 6th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^

His sophomore year, it became fairly apparent that, for all of his jumping ability and all-around skill, he was still pretty slow-footed (like his dad). His overall athleticism was always overrated because people weren't looking beyond the vertical.

There's probably still a window for him to spend a lot of time doing quickness drills and then look to get back into the league, but it won't be a big one.

JCV16

March 5th, 2015 at 5:32 PM ^

Why do you think his draft stock would have improved? Simply getting better isn't enough - you need to outperform the expected improvement over one year. I see no evidence that would have happened, given his marginal improvement from freshman to sophomore. He really would have been best off leaving after 1 year.